Doctors Admit The Most Dangerous DIY Treatments They've Ever Seen Patients Try

Emergency rooms are a locale of terror and sadness. Patients forced to check in under emergency situations can lead to doctor's best stories.

Tales of life-saving brilliance and ingenious solutions to troubling diagnoses. Sometimes, however, there's times when patients decided they wanted all the glory, attempting to cure themselves with misguided homemade remedies.

Spoiler: They're all awful.

Reddit user, r/Shandrith, got all the horrific details when they asked:

Medical professionals of Reddit, what is the craziest DIY treatment you've seen a patient attempt?

50. It Actually Worked????!


I got this one - once upon a time, the blood thinner Coumodin® was still under patent and was crazy expensive. It's used to prevent blood clots in patients who have a history of deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary emboli, strokes, and other clot related fun. It's hard to get the dosage accurate, so patients on it get frequent follow up visits to make sure that their blood is thin enough that it doesn't clot too easily, but not so thin that it they'd be in danger of bleeding to death if they were to have an injury.

This is not just a theoretical danger; the same chemical was sold as a rodenticide because rats who ate lots of it would die of bleeding (often internal bleeding) and it was believed that as they overdosed they would become extremely thirsty and would often exit their dens in search of water. The advantage was that your rats would not only die, but they'd not die inside your wall and stink the house up.

So physician relative of mine was assigned to the Coumodin clinic where patients came in for routine monitoring. She was talking with a long term patient who confessed that the prescription was too expensive, so he had stopped filling it many months ago. His clotting times were perfectly in the middle of the theraputic range; right where they should be. She looked at his chart, and saw that for many months his clotting times were fine; he was doing much better than the average patient.

She asked him if he could explain it and he said that he routinely pricked his own finger at home with a sewing needle and carefully noticed how long it took the blood to get sticky and the puncture to stop bleeding. If it didn't take "long enough", he would eat a small pinch of rat poison that he had purchased at the hardware store; if it took too long, he would eat less rat poison.

Bonus fact: over the last 50 years, wild rats have evolved to be immune to warfarin (the generic name of the chemical), and modern rat poison uses a different anti-coagulent. Also, Coumodin is off patent, and is much cheaper now.


49.  Prepare Yourself, This Is Horrible

I worked on an oncology unit in the early 2000's and we had a lady come in with a massive fungating tumor in her head. Per her husband she had found a small lesion on the roof of her mouth and rather than have radiation, she chose to 'treat' it with essential oils and frankincense. So a small patch of squamous cell carcinoma had become a huge tumor that had invaded her skull and eaten away her jaw and eye socket.

Her husband finally didn't listen to her wishes and brought her in for emergency treatment. When the Radiation Oncologist doc on duty tried to open her mouth, her remaining teeth fell plink plink plink into his hand. She died in agony a day or two later. Essential oils are for making your house smell nice, not for treating cancer.


48. It May Work In The Short Term But Let's Not Keep It Like This

I worked as a tech in an ER in rural Illinois that occasionally saw Amish patients. One day we had a kid, about 14, come in after getting his hand chewed up by a meat grinder. Apparently this is pretty common, because it was the 2nd time I had seen it in a matter of months. Anyways, when I went to irrigate his wound I noticed he wasn't bleeding at all but had chunks of dark red "crumbs" stuck in it. Turns out they put cayenne pepper on it to stop it from bleeding before heading to the hospital. Honestly, I was pretty impressed. The only problem is that it was so deeply lodged into the cuts that I couldn't get any of it out, so he had to go to the OR and get his hand amputated.


47. Please Don't Get Any Ideas Here

I'm not a medical professional, but I once impaled my hand on the top of a fence I was climbing when my feet slipped out while I had one hand on top. I wound up with 18 stitches total, 10 internal and 8 external. They told me to come back in two weeks to get the stitches out.

So two weeks go by, and I don't have insurance. I figured "how hard can it be to remove stitches?" The answer: Not hard... However, a doctor probably would have looked at my hand and said, "those aren't ready to come out." I did not have any such medical knowledge, so when I removed the stitches I ended up with just a big hole in my hand. I didn't know what to do and I definitely didn't wanna get more stitches in the raw skin I had just removed them from, so i crazy-glued my hand shut and kept reapplying the glue a couple times a day for two weeks. In the end, I peeled off the strip of dried glue and my hand was perfectly healed.


46. The Lengths Of A Phobia


This isn't medical exactly, I'm in dental/ortho, but I had a patient come in with a mouth full of weird gloopy white mounds on his molars and some old caps on his teeth that were falling off.

He was phobic of the dentist and hadn't had insurance for 10 years. Turns out, his temporary healing caps from 10 years ago were falling off of his teeth (of course, they were temps!) so he was gluing them back in with plumbing cement!

Then he decided to just go for it and do his own fillings!

When the caps would come off while he was chewing (and they did) and he swallowed them, he would sort through his poop for them and glue them back in.

I know it's pretty mild compared to the other things in this thread, but I think about it every day. We need dental insurance for everyone. :/


45. Sounds Like A Taurus

My dad once developed a cyst in his forearm. It was maybe half an inch of diameter. Didn't look bad at all, probably just grease and just below the skin.

Now he's a stubborn, "It's never cold, don't need a jacket", "I'm not sick don't need the pill", "Didn't hurt" kind of guy. So we all knew it was going to be a pain to get him to see a doctor. Not that we were worried but it also hurt if he touched it... Which he did, constantly.

It's been a month since he noticed it. It had grown a bit by then, probably just swollen because he kept scratching it like the big toddler he is. When all of a sudden he shows up with some (really dirty) dressing around his forearm. And we just knew he didn't go to a doctor so we're just waiting for him to tell us what he did.

Well. He's a jeweler. So he has access to different tools, which he proved he's not afraid to use. First he took a blowtorch and burned the skin. Once the skin was open he grabbed a mini drill and used it around the cyst. For the "root" as he described it he used a frame saw and cut it out.

It healed remarkably well. He still has a hole.


44. Somehow I Feel Less Educated

Obligatory, I'm not a doctor, but...

My mom tells it so much better, but here's a try:

My mom was the head nurse at a clinic here in Houston in the 80's. She worked for an old WWII doctor that had gone into private practice (old school GP) when he returned back to the states. Well one afternoon she told me that they had a patient come in that was running a high fever and was complaining of pain in her pelvic area.

Mom also tells me that there was a stench coming from the woman's lap that could only be described as enough to Gag a maggot off a meat wagon. She begins to interview the patient who told her that her and her boyfriend had been sexually active and that she has been in pain since. She thought that the woman may have contracted an STD and asked her to undress and wait for the doctor to examine her.

The doctor arrives and closes the door, only to re-open it a few seconds later mentioning about the need for fresh air. The doctor noticed that there was a vaginal discharge began to question the patient about her sex life, was it protected, non-protected, etc... According to mom, the patient told her "No doc, we always use a rubber." The doctor looked down then noticed that there was a small rubber band extending from the woman's vagina.

The doctor reached in with his gloved hand and pulled it out. What came next can only be described as a magician pulling the magic cloth out of someone's mouth... one rubber band after another came out over the course of the next 10 minutes. Finally once they were all removed, the Doctor had "the talk" with the woman about sex education and that rubber bands were not a successful contraceptive and not what they meant by "wearing a rubber" and then wrote her a presecription for Abx.


43. Garlic And Olive Oil Do Not An Antibiotic Make

Not a medical professional but a patient. I made a garlic and olive oil "healing serum" for my ears back in my crunchy days. Put a few drops into both ears each night.

After one week my right ear felt sore. My GP said it was a regular ol' ear infection and gave me an antibiotic. I went to a wedding in Maine that weekend and the pain never went away. It increased. I spent the wedding with my right ear throbbing and I hallucinated hearing a sports radio station with no radio around.

On my way home, traffic delayed my second bus to New York. The next bus was in 3 hours. I screamed and cried in Boston's South Station. Police called an ambulance and the hospital said I had a fungal ear infection in both ears, cleared them out, and gave me oxycontin for the pain.

Back in New York I got treated, but doctors didn't notice that I also had a middle ear infection at the same time. The pressure built up so much, it tore a gaping hole in my eardrum. So while I put antifungal drops that I felt go into my middle ear, I got placed into an unholy mix with antibiotics.

After three months, my ears finally cleared up. Six months post, my eardrum closed up. I have a cute scar there that marks my tumultuous ordeal. NEVER self medicate!


42.  Proof We Need A Better Insurance System In This Country

When I was unemployed, I gored my shin in a gardening accident. I couldn't afford to go bankrupt until I could get insurance, so I cleaned out the 1" deep gash myself, and wondered what I could do to stitch it up. I didn't have floss or any sterile thread, so on a crazy hunch, I used crazy glue.

I can't believe it worked. I had to cut open the wound a few times to clean it out and prevent infection, and the scar is now just a dark pigmentation. I expected a horrible scar.

Pisses me off I had to resort to that, but I had no job for a 2 month period (laid off with no warning). Had to go off all my meds, too, and I have diabetes and a bad heart condition. Fucking miracle I didn't die.

0/10, even with rice. Would not do again.


41. Even The Medical Profession Itself Is Wild


Former ER nurse here. I did the DIY for a homeless patient. Generally whenever we get a homeless person for medical treatment, as long as it's not life threatening, we don't go out of our way to treat them. Especially if they are self inflicted injury to obtain pain meds. Had a guy come in for severe constipation. He hasn't had a bowel movement in a month due to drug use.

We gave him laxatives and told him to drink lots of water and told him to be on his way. He kept on begging for help and refusing to leave without some treatment. It was a slow night and didn't want to have a scene, so I told the charge nurse I'll take care of it if it was ok and to ignore the medical items charges. She was cool with it since he WAS in actual pain given how stiff and distended his abdomen was.

So I took a urinary catheter and a 50cc syringe to the bathroom with him. Filled the sink with water. Had him strip down, some lube, and up the butt with the catheter. Took a good 20 flushes for him to finally have a bowel movement. He went from looking like he had 4 turkey dinners to a skinny featherweight.

The one thing I loved about working in the ER was, many times it comes down to DIY for things we don't have a procedure for.


40. Self Inflicted Heart Attack

Working in the ICU as a nurse I see plenty of crazy things but this patient of mine still takes the cake. The story goes that this gentleman wanted his Pacemaker taken out so he called his cardiologist and told him he wanted it removed. This patient was adamant it be removed as he had decided he could treat his heart rhythm problems medically.

His cardiologist stated that this was not a good idea and that his heart was reliant on his pacemaker to beat. This guy, who was probably not very mentally stable, decided fine my cardiologist won't remove it so I will. He drove himself to Walmart, purchased an Exacto blade and cut a long cut across his chest, he cute 2cm deep on his upper right chest where the pacemaker leads ran and he cuts right through them and his heart stopped beating.

Long story short he got his pacemaker removed! He infected the leads and it was contaminated so the surgeon had to remove it and he wouldn't give them permission to put a new one. It was a home remedy that actually worked for they guy to get what he wanted but can't say I would recommend it!


39. This Takes Going "Under The Knife" Too Far

Patient came in complaining of pain to her arm. I looked at where she points and it looked/felt like a cyst, but it was pretty deep. She said it was a recurring problem but it just kept coming back. I flipped through her chart and the first instance of that weird lump was nearly a year ago! I do some more reading and found out the patient would come in every few months for the same issue, but in-between, she would use a kitchen knife to dig it out despite being told multiple times not to, you know, do surgery on herself at home. That was probably why there was so much pain to the area and why it was so deep underneath the skin.

I phoned the doctor on-call who asked me a bunch of questions, and in the end, he said, "I don't even know what to tell you. I'm referring her to surgery. And tell her not to take a knife to it again!"


38. Take The Final Advice Here

Unfortunately, this is one I did myself. I suffer badly with kidney and bladder infections. I was sick of going to the drs for anti biotics so when I felt one coming on I would drink loads of cranberry juice but also drink 2 glasses (morning and night) of water with bicarbonate of soda in it (saw the home remedy online - it neutralises the acid in your urine)

Roll on 5 months later I get a kidney stone. Need surgery. Have surgery. But because I've been masking my raging infection (high pain threshold as well), my infection spreads. I become septic and rushed to ICU where I stay for weeks.

Spoiler: didn't die. But also made HUGE changes to my lifestyle and haven't had an infection in over a year.

Go. To. The. Drs.


37. They Don't Teach This Lung In D.A.R.E.

Had a patient who came into the ER with chronic cough, not resolving. She subscribes to holistic medicine, and lives out in the bush (Northern Ontario). Struggling with this worsening cough and feeling unwell x 2 months. The whole time was making a homemade bovine lung extract. She made on their farm from when they butchered Bessie: she was proud that she dried the cow's lung herself.

I suspect she either inhaled bacteria or she aspirated some of it and had a huge lung abscess. She required a lung pneumonectomy (removal of her R upper lung). Pathology came back with some bizarre bacteria I never heard of, nor was taught in medicine.

She survived, has become my patient and I still never see her unless her home remedies fail. She never really learned her lesson, but has thankfully sworn off the bovine lung extract.


36. You People Really Do Not Seem To Care


A customer in the pharmacy I worked in asked for Plaster of Paris so he could do his own tooth fillings. When I told him we didn't have any, he left.

He came back later for painkillers after using pliers to rip out all of his teeth.

Another incident. Woman runs into the pharmacy with a plastic bag in her hand, screaming that a dog has bitten het father's nose off.

Sure as sh*t, the nose is in the bag. When we asked where her dad was, she informed us that he was outside the store having a cigarette.


35. So This DEFINITELY Does Not Work

This happened before I was a doctor: A neighbor kid had a small cut on his hand that became inflamed. He thought it was a good idea to douse it with hydrogen peroxide, and use an unsterile sewing needle to poke holes in and around the injury so the hydrogen peroxide could get in to where the "infection" was. Even as another dumb adolescent, this sounded stupid to me at the time.


34. Bacteria Volcano

Dentist here. A lot of people come in with that temporary filling material from Walmart packing into broken teeth. If you have an big cavity that is abcessing don't plug the drainage hole (the cavity) it's like plugging a volcano.

As a side note, I'm really surprised Walmart hasn't been sued for that.


33. Even Our Furry Friends

Vet student here. We once had a family that came in when their dog ate a bag of Easter chocolate. We had to induce vomiting, but first asked if they had tried anything at home. They said they read online to make the dog eat a bunch of salt to make it throw up. This poor dog had a bag of salt repeatedly poured down it's throat before he came in.

Pro-tip: If your dog ever eats chocolate and you panic, have him ingest about 2 tablespoons of hydrogen peroxide. He'll vomit out liquid/frothy chocolate, so put him in the bathtub immediately after. Save your dog. Save your carpet. Please take him to the vet also! The Hydrogen Peroxide is just in the event that you can't rush him in!

Edit: During my emergency rotation 2 weeks ago, we were told by the attending veterinarian that 30ml (2 tablespoons) of hydrogen peroxide is safe to administer orally in case of an emergency. I understand that there are contradictory opinions on this and not all vets may recommend it. Again, it's meant to be done in case of emergency; you should still take your dog to the vet! I'm not licensed to give medical advice, which I thought was clear when I said I was a vet student.


32. Didn't Our Parents Used To Threaten Us With These????

Had a dude try and pull out a rotted tooth with pliers. Kid had a drug test the following day so to "cleanse" his system he drank a jar of pickle juice and then busted open a bunch of niacin pills. Patient with festering leg wounds that wrapped them with tampons and duct tape. First time I saw maggots in a wound. Stuffing raw bacon in their nose to stop a nose bleed. (But it actually kind of worked??!) Waaaay to many people with big pus collections under their skin that get drunk and stab them with broken glass or something else sharp. Many YouTube videos can demonstrate.


31. What A Horrid Way To Start


I was a brand new nurse, starting my career in a small, Southern hospital. I had a patient who was admitted to my unit with sort of nonspecific complaints about a wound on her breast. She was a "Direct Admit", meaning that she was sent directly to the unit from a doctors office, rather than going through the emergency room. When someone is directly admitted, I don't get a full report. All I can see are lab results and notes from previous doctor's office visits. Basically, I'm flying blind. As I'm getting her settled into her room, I start asking a few background questions that will help me direct my assessment.

So, I see that you were admitted because you have a wound. Did you have an accident? "Oh no. It just kind of showed up." How long ago? "Oh, it's been a while now. Maybe a few years?". Oh. Okay. Well, if you've had it for years, what brought you in today? Has something changed? Is the wound draining? Changing color? "Well... it fell off" What did? "My breast"

I help her get settled in the bed and move her shirt to take a look. Her breast, well, what was left of it, looked like this.The entire portion below her nipple had totally eroded away. She explained that she'd been putting triple antibiotic cream on it and had started wrapping it in a baby diaper when it developed an odor.

I kept my face very still, tried not to be visibly horrified, and listened to her talk about how she wanted to show it to her doctor at her yearly physicals but, for the last two years, her female doctor had been out of the office on the day of her exams. She didn't feel comfortable showing her breasts to a male doctor, so she let it go.

I nod, excuse myself from the room, and basically fly down the hall to the Hospitalists' office. I tell him that he needs to call his female NP down to this patient's room immediately "because she's old and scared and she won't show you her boob but it is falling off and looks like rotten cauliflower and no part of nursing school taught me how to make this better".

It took them all of 5 minutes to diagnose her with a very advanced funginating breast tumor. She was totally unsurprised and said that she "figured it was something like cancer". She placed herself on hospice and died less than two weeks later.


30. The Idaho Pessary

Background info for those who don't know: a pessary is a device that women (usually older) can use to place inside their vagina and help support it. Sometimes with age and history of many child births, the ligaments that support the walls of the vagina within the body can become loose leading to prolapse (meaning it starts to fall down into itself like a telescope). The pessary acts to hold it up and keep this from happening.

Anyway, I'm an ENT surgeon, but my buddy told me the story of an experience in the ER where a lady came in with the chief complaint of "roots coming from vagina". Turns out she had lost her pessary and decided to use a potato. It stayed in there for so long that it started to sprout.

This story made me ever so happy with my career decision to choose the opposite end of the body.


29. This Is What Darwin Meant By "Natural Selection"

Finally, something I can add to! When I was in med school on my family medicine rotation I was sent in to see a middle-aged woman with complaints of sinus congestion. Sure enough, from the beginning I can tell she's really stopped up with her nasally voice and my history and exam are consistent with your run of the mill viral upper respiratory infection.

I begin educating her on symptomatic management and the following exchange ensues: Patient: "Do you think it might be the flu?" Me: "It's possible but unlikely; it's really out of the typical season (it was June)" Patient: "Yeah, I guess I wasn't sure it was; I've been spraying Lysol everywhere and it doesn't seem to be doing any good, and it says it kills the flu virus" Me: "Well, that's something that could help disinfect the house and keep the virus from spreading" Patient: "I guess, I just wish it didn't burn so much" Me: "…what do you mean, 'it burns'?" Patient: "You know, when I spray it up my nose it burns so bad."

Yep. My patient thought that since Lysol kills influenza the best way to nip it in the bud was to flush her sinuses with it like a saline spray. It did not work, for the record. The fact that I didn't immediately fall over laughing and instead seriously counseled her against ever doing that again is still the greatest feat of composure in my entire career.


28. This Is Sad.  Just Sad.

I wouldn't call it a "treatment" per se, but the patient did. I work in a home health care system. Patients have long term iv accesses placed and are able to infuse sterile medications intravenously at home.

Well, this patient kept getting really bad blood/iv line infections almost weekly and having his line replaced. No one could figure out why and line infections aren't very common. He also was running out of saline flushes a little quicker than he should with no explanation. So the line was being maintained appropriately at least.

Finally, while a nurse was there to get labs, change his dressing, and check for infection things finally clicked. He had been crushing pain pills, mixing with saline, and injecting it directly into his line. When asked directly he didn't deny it... The response was "well, no one told me not to."

Yes, yes we did. We told not to put anything we didn't provide in there. And the pharmacy providing the pain meds put "take by mouth" on the little bottle. He got repeated painful infections, MRSA, and thousands of dollars in unnecessary hospital bills. Idiot.


27. If You're Not A HUMAN Doctor, Why Would You Try To Be A Dog Doctor?

Had a patient try and buy syringes from my Pharmacy for injecting the dog. With what, you ask? Gatorade.

"My wife's dog has been really lethargic the last couple of days so we were going to try and give it some fluids in case it's dehydrated."

The instinct for some would be that it was just an IV drug user seeking clean needles but I can assure you this gentleman thought his logic was sound and in fact intended to murder his wife's dog injecting it with sugary Powerade.


26. These Things Really Shouldn't Work

I'm not a medical pro, but here's a story...my friend's dad got skin cancer on his right bicep. And at the time he was a large muscular man who ran a horse farm. HUGE ARMS. And so instead of going through all the normal bs of one getting skin cancer he caught it early and thought he could stop it at the source...so he heated up a railroad tie/stake with a massive torch he had on his farm, till past red hot, and shoved it into his arm where the skin cancer began...he did this TWICE. To himself, and wrapped up his insane burn/hole in his arm.

A while later he went to the doc, who said the burn he inflicted was the craziest sh*t he's ever seen. But all signs of the cancer were gone, he f*cking killed that shit and it never returned. His arm and burn healed months later and he remains cancer-free to this day.


25. Spritz Away

I had a guy come in for coughing and shortness of breath for the past few months. His lungs sounded awful. Got a chest xray that looked horrible, so I did a CT scan. Radiologist called it the worst case of necrotizing pneumonia he'd ever seen. Dude had like a 15% functional lung tissue left. The patient then mentioned things had been worse after he started using a new "breath freshener" spray....

He whipped out one of those concentrated air freshener bottles, supposed to cover up weed smell. Labeled Not For Internal Use. Apparently he had been using it like Binaca spray, and had already gone through 3 bottles.


24. When Life Gives You Lemons...


Paramedic here. Once had to explain to a family that putting lemon juice in the eyes of an unconscious patient isn't an approved treatment method.

And no, it didn't work. (It was an interesting moment when I had to explain why his eyes hurt)


23. Super Glue Fixes Everything

I work in dental and years ago had a patient attempt to super glue her front tooth back on after it broke in half.

She screwed up and ended up gluing the chunk to her upper lip.


22. Maybe Put The Cap Back On...


This happened when I was still a med student doing a rotation in the ED. Patient comes in and is pretty vague about his actual complaint, something about head pain but he looks just fine sitting waiting to be seen.

When I finally get to see him and ask him what actually happened. This guy managed to basically scalp himself, and apparently it had been like that for 3 days. According to him it was caused by falling in his bathroom and hitting his head on the toilet. He had been previously duct taping it down or using the hat to hold the skin on, but it wasn't sticking well and that's when his wife convinced him to come to the hospital.


21. Puff It Out

Adult patient had gas and poked a hole in his belly button with basically a knitting needle to release it.

Edit: it didn't work, he actually came in for the ensuing infection in his belly button.


20. Dogs Are Worthless

An old lady told me the rain hurt her arthritis. That's reasonable.

She also swore that dog spit had healing properties so she let her dogs lick her feet when she felt it coming on. She then wanted to show me a video of said dogs licking said feet.

I swiftly and politely declined.


19. All Good Stories Start With, "Get The Fish Hook"


A fifty year old man swallowed a chicken bone while eating, and it got stuck down his throat (upper oesophagus). Unable to take it out with his fingers or coughing, he got a fisher hook with a line and tried to rescue the bone with it.

He ended in an emergency department with both the bone and the hook in his oesophagus.


18. What Doesn't Kill You, Makes You Sicker

He had a guy come in with an abscess on his right thumb. When I asked him what happened to his hand, he told me about his recent deep sea fishing trip and was given the responsibility of cutting the fish with an open wound in his hand. A sliver of fish got in there and became infected as it healed, so this guy gets the bright idea of doing a little DIY wound drainage by grabbing his pocket knife and cutting it open, leading to a greater infection.


17. Put A Sock In It

In nursing school while I was on clinical rotation in urology, there was a man who ended up having his penis removed. It turned out he had an infection brewing for quite a while and thought the best course of action was placing a sock over his penis in hope that it would heal. He was generally confused and upset as to why this didn't work to heal the issue


16. Betrayed By Vick's


My mom once melted Vick's Vapor Rub into my tea because she thought that would help my cold.

It didn't.


15. Super Man Potion

One of my first clinic patients was a dude who was injecting a mixture of testosterone, "human growth hormone," sesame oil, and sunflower oil into the base of his penis as a DIY penile enlargement therapy.

Well, it got infected so he ended up going to the ED for incision and drainage. I saw him as a post-ED visit and at that time, he figured that he shouldn't be injecting into his penis while it was healing. So instead, he was injecting his oil + sketchy hormones off the internet concoction everywhere else into his body (arms, legs, butt, shoulders, etc) because he figured it would still have some effect.


14. Making It Worse

As a child I got really bad sunburn.

The person looking after me coated my sunburn in baby oil to help it heal, and sent me back out into the sun.

I realised when I was older why my mum went nuts.


13. Okay MacGyver


A man who'd accidentally sliced his leg open at his workplace. He obviously figured that as surgeons use staples to close wounds, he'd cut out the trip to hospital and DIY. With an ordinary desk stapler. Arrived in ED with a pus filled wound with the odd discolored staple hanging off it some days later.

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12. Somehow I Can Do Science Faster

Anesthesiologist here; we had a patient come in for I&D of bilateral deltoid abscesses. He apparently had thoughts of being a body builder, but instead of lifting weights or knowing someone who could hook him up with some quality steroids, he decided to bulk up by using some protein powder at GNC...

...and mixing it with water, drawing it up into a syringe, and injecting 20-40cc daily directly into the muscle. If bulk was what he was going for, it definitely worked, temporarily. A rip-roaring localized infection makes you look plenty swole. They got almost a liter of pus mixed with liquified protein powder out of each deltoid.

This also wasn't the first time he'd been in for this problem.


11. In No Way Is White Bread Good For You


White bread soaked in milk placed on an armpit abscess to draw out the infection. Needed an I&D and a couple weeks of IV antibiotics by the time he got to us.

Either that or the guy who crashed his motorbike, scraped his leg all to hell, and then decided the best course of action was to self-cauterize it on the tailpipe.


10. Building Up Pain Tolerance

Dental student here.

We had a patient who declined a much needed cleaning saying he could do it just as well a home with a scalpel. Didn't brush his teeth but every few weeks he would go at the accumulated plaque and tartar with a scalpel.

Same patient also insisted we do a procedure without local anesthetic. He was an amateur boxer and was « building up his pain tolerance.


9. Bleach Blond


Pharmacist here. Worked in a shop where a woman asked for some advice about potential UTI or STI. Told me she had bathed her vagina in bleach for 5 mins to try and kill any bacteria. Miraculously, she hadn't done any lasting damage.

8. Take The Hint

Had a patient come into the ER with a makeshift bandage on his shin. He had fallen on rocks while hiking and left a three inch long, half inch deep gash in his leg. I go to pull the bandage off and as I'm peeling it away I notice the skin is completely black. It looked necrotic, like it had been left alone for a week. I look at this guy like he's crazy as he tells me the wound is only a few hours old. He's pretty proud as he explains that he created a makeshift poultice by chewing up leaves and moss, mixing it with river mud and stuffing it into his leg. That's what all the black mossy stuff was.

Hint. Don't do this.


7. Cool Down

There's a myth that lowering someone's core temperature will save them from an opiate overdose.

As a result, many first responders have arrived on scenes to find friends/fellow users inserting ice into someone's rectum.

Sometimes they don't have ice around though. Which leads to getting inventive. Popsicles, frozen hot dogs. My personal favorite (which regrettably I didn't witness myself, it was told to me by another medic) was a bag of frozen French fries.

Cold will do nothing to help someone who is overdosing on heroin or other opiates. What they need is respiratory support (oxygen and/or artificial ventilation) and naloxone (Narcan). If you're a user or know one, and somebody ODs, call 9-1-1, perform mouth-to-mouth and give narcan if you have it, but leave the popsicles in the freezer.


6. Seriously, Go To The Doctor


I work in the er at a trauma center. This guy comes in with his little girl and says that she was bit in the face by the family German shepherd. I immediately take her back assuming that I need to control bleeding. What I encounter is a little girl with a laceration going all the way from over her left eye crossing her nose and mouth. It is not bleeding whatsoever and it seems to have a odd looking substance inside. So I obviously ask the dad what she got inside it.

He responds very proudly with, " Ah yes, I packed the wound with tobacco and super glue. "

Poor thing.

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5. But...why?

My dad had an abscess on his face. It was huge, about the size of a golf ball and horribly red. It kept getting bigger. My mom (a nurse) kept telling him to go to the doctor, but my dad was a ridiculously cheap.

One day when she was gone, we noticed that a big white head had formed on the abscess, and it was apparently ready to bust. My dad went out to the garage, got his shop vac, placed it over the white head, and proceeded to suck out the abscess. It worked surprisingly well and healed up after that nicely.

Mom was still furious, though.


4. Don't Trust Sommers


I work in oncology pharmacy. I had a patient die of totally treatable breast cancer because they decided to treat it with mistletoe instead of chemo. All because Suzanne Sommers did. Yeah. The thighmaster lady. Don't take medical advice from the thighmaster lady.


3. Tooth Fairy

I had a dental patient with a dead front tooth that had turned black so she painted it with white nail polish daily.


2. Toxic Shocker

A mentally-delayed woman came in septic to the ED. Did xrays, blood cultures, urine cultures, the works. Finally found this weird image on her pelvis film, and we had GYN come do a pelvic exam. They pulled out this blob with bones in it.

Y'all, I swear to God ....

It was a decomposing frog.

She put it in her vagina for "safekeeping".

She got toxic shock syndrome from a FROG.

1. Well...What Happened?


Patient came into the pharmacy and asked if they could use a plastic bag secured with a rubber band instead of condoms


H/T: Reddit

Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?

You're not the only one.

u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?

Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.

I Know What I Like


My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.

The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.

- AardvarkAndy

A Stair Step

My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.

- RazerWolf04

My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.

- Apples9308


My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.

We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.

- FormalMango


I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.

My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.

- dontcryformegiratina


With an ex:

"I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."

She did not understand this.

I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.

"Now how much do you have in your hand?"

She still didn't understand.

She somehow has a college degree.

- Speedly

Mini Wheats

When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.

- shicole3



I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.

- CorrectionalChard

That's Unfair

My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.

His answer was that I was being unfair.

- ShyAcorn

Pure Masochism

How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."

To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.

- argofire

Emailing NASA

A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.

- derawin07

A Non-Standard Ruler? 

I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.

Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.

7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.

Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.

Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.

- Lovelocke

This Unusual Vegan Argument

Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.

He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.

That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."

Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.

Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.

- onlytruebertos

Monty Python

In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.

It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.

- Skrivus

Albert or Arnold


Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?

- Gerrard1995

Below Sea Level

I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.

I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.

This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.

- -justforclout-


Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.

Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.

An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.

I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.

- TK-DuVeraun

Whales Are Mammals

I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.

- kawaii_psycho451


Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.

- sun_phobic

Shower Schedule

My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.

- LibrarianGovernment

No Balloons For Grandma

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.

He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.

He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.

- Dskee02

Spontaneous Dolphin Existence


How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.

- thebeststory

Male Chickens

I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.

- bee_zah

Lightning McQueen

Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.

- 23071115

But ... Ice Floats

Waiter/Host here.

Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.

Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.

- FarWoods

Time Zones Exist

Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.

- JustARegularToaster


My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?"

"that's orange"

"no, it's red"



It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.

- droneb2hive

Andre 2000?


I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)

The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.

The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.

It was stupid.

- P1ST0L_Wh1PP3D

Stars Like Our Sun

I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.


Richard Nixon

I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.

I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.

Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.


Balloon to Heaven

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.

And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.


Binder Clips

I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.

He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.

It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.



Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".

My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.




3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.

I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.


Lingerie Boxes

Late to the party, but there it is.

I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.

Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.


Wicked Witch of the West

I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.

I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.


Keep Your Hands to Yourself

Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.

They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.

So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.



My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.

I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.

We didn't speak to each other for four days.



How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).

How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.


Dogs and Chocolate


I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.

I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.


Is water wet?

My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.

For the record, it is no to both questions.


Mission Trip

A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.

He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.


Dragon Tales

One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.

It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.


Green Or Yellow?

When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.

Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.


Stars In Their Multitude


I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".

I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.



My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".

It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.


Hot Water

About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.

She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.

We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.


Biology Class

I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"

I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.

I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...


Solid Or Liquid?

Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.

For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.