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Doctors Share Their Worst Experiences With Anti-Vaxxers

To Vaccine or not to Vaccine?

Doctors don't have it easy. There is no miracle cure for any of our ailments but we as people so desperately want there to always be one. Some ways of staving off illness is vaccinations. Which has become an intense issue with people.

Redditor u/sneky_snek_ wanted the doctors out there to speak up and discuss a controversial idea by asking.... Doctors of Reddit, what are some of your worst experiences with anti-vaxxers?

Pay attention parents....

My step mom is a pediatrician at a major hospital here in Italy, she told me the worst thing she saw was a anti-vaxxer mom wailing and screaming after her 12 year old son died of meningitis (the mother didn't let the son get the meningitis vaccine).

Step mom told me as soon as she walked in the room after getting called for an emergency, all the son's limbs had gone necrotic and he was bleeding from practically every hole in his body including his eyes since his blood couldn't congeal anymore and was like oil leaking all over. This was all preventable. Rust890Rust890

Sick Kids...

There was an anti-vax mom who brought her kid into the ER and demanded that her kid be roomed right away and seen first because he "couldn't be around all these sick kids." slurpeee76

Imagine knowingly putting your child in danger and then demanding and feeling entitled to the best care. gotimo

Sepsis is no joke! 

Not a doctor, but worked in a pediatric ED for many years. Had a young boy come in, don't remember exactly how old maybe 8 or 9. Comes in obtunded and stiff as a board. We take home to the resuscitation room and do all the full work up stuff including a spinal tap. It was work to try to position him because he was so stiff. I am assisting with the tap.

The fellow was able to get into the intervertebral space and a milky fluid literally shoots out of the needle and onto her chest. She hooked up the manometer to measure the pressure and the fluid climbed all the way to the top and out even with the extension added to it. I had never seen that before in hundreds of taps. I don't remember pressure, but as you can imagine it was astronomically high.

We got the kid as stable as we could and transferred him to the PICU. He ended up living, but lost three of his extremities due to sepsis. As well as severe cognitive impairment as a result of the high pressures. Cultures showed H flu meningitis, which is the most common form of meningitis. He was never vaccinated. The HIB vaccine is > 95% effective in preventing meningitis. It was sobering to watch the parents realize their decision to withhold a vaccine has unimaginably altered the course of their lives and the life of their child. Boredredheadshusband

Too Sad....

This experience isn't necessarily the "worst" but mainly just sad. I had a one-year old infant in the NICU with HiB meningitis, which is a vaccine preventable illness. I didn't actually have the heart (or felt there was any reason in the moment) to explain to the parents that what was happening to their child was fully preventable.

Long story short; their child came into the emergency room, quite febrile, and non-responsive. The whole work-up was done and he was diagnosed with HiB meningitis and sepsis and was admitted to the NICU. Unfortunately he was already fairly advanced into the course of his illness and went on to develop multiple awful complications. Despite being started on the kitchen sink's worth of antibiotics, he developed multiple brain empyemas (large collection of pus and bacteria that fill the skull), requiring multiple drains to be drilled into their skull to relieve pressure (or else the brain would have been compressed). To make things worse, the kid incurred multiple ischemic strokes (dead brain) and also developed hydrocephalus (the brain has its own 'circulatory' system which can get clogged with pus / bacteria causing fluid to build up and exerting pressure on the brain).

Against all odds, this tiny baby survived the ordeal. You can have your own ethical debate over whether a child that neurologically compromised should have lived, since they will be so profoundly disabled that they will likely require full-time nursing care, and may only live a few more years before dying of pneumonia, but that was the situation. Reddit

What's in Them?


Not a doctor, but I work for a vaccine manufacturer, and my title is Raw Material Engineer (aka I work with vaccine ingredients for a living.) When an AVer asks me (on social media or in public) if I know what's in a vaccine I basically cackle and crack my knuckles.

They also don't seem to have an answer for why I give my children the same vaccines if Big Pharma is trying to poison people.

Edit: People keep asking to do an AMA and I think that's a GREAT idea! I'll make sure I do it very soon but I want to wait for a time when I have enough time to dedicate to Reddit.

And for those asking "what's in them?" that's a more complicated question. Depending on which vaccine (both the type and the brand) there are upwards of 100 different components that go in from start to finish.

Measles are a NO NO! 

I had a 7 year old showing signs of a serious illness. Her teachers initially noticed it before anyone else. The child had been sick for a few days that turned into a couple weeks. The teachers told the parents over and over something was wrong. The parents ignored the signs and claimed it was nothing bad or it was a cold, something minor, etc.

They finally came to me and the child showed signs of Measles. Within about 10-15mins I indicated that this is not a cold and this seemed to be measles (based on what they verbalized to me and what I saw). To confirm, I examined the child's inner cheek and did a full body exam where she (the child not the parents) pointed out a rash both confirming Measles.

The parents indicated that they did not believe in Vaccines because their previous doctor told them it was unnecessary as long as the child ate healthy and stayed active (it was a family friend who worked in Naturopathic medicine, not a licensed doctor).

After making the diagnosis and having a very tough conversation and informational session with the parents, I provided them with prescriptions to help with the measles and bring as much comfort as possible to their child. I had to break down that their child: 1. Could've infected children and families with a very dangerous but preventable disease, 2. Could've had permanent brain/nerve damage and 3. Could have died(I didn't curse at them but boy did I want to).

The child had Measles for at least a month before seeing me. To show how serious this is, Measles does not show signs or symptoms in some cases for 10-14 days. So because they refused to vaccinate their child, at least 2-3 weeks of exposure to other kids and teachers went by. Somehow they were able to bypass school district requirements for getting vaccines (they did NOT have a religious exemption). DoctorSumter2You

Be A Parent! 

Not necessarily anti-vaxx, but a sad story related to not wanting to listen to the doctors mixed in with not being a good parent.

I'm in medical school when this happened. Seeing a new patient to establish care. Patient is a nine year old girl. Get into the room and she is on the table wearing glasses. Okay that's cool, I had glasses at a young age also. Then I notice she has strabismus (is cross-eyed). Talk to the mother to get better history.

Turns out she was born with strabismus. Now, there is a relatively easy way to fix this. Involves surgery and then wearing an eye patch. For most people, this fixes the issue and their vision is unaffected.

The mother was against the surgery, but was someone finally convinced her that it would help so she got it done. Patient was sent home and mother was given specific instructions...keep the eye patch on constantly. Well, guess what? Eye patch isn't exactly comfortable and kid gets fussy all the time and doesn't want to keep it on. So mom decides not to make her wear it. Strabismus returns.

By the time I saw her, the patient's vision was terrible, and she was almost legally blind (she could read the big E on the eye chart, nothing else. And that was with 1 month old glasses). She is cross eyed. I inform the mother that they can get the surgery again, it will help prevent her vision from worsening and help with being cross-eyed. Mother says the surgery is cosmetic, and the eye patch is too bothersome so she doesn't want to do it.

This nine year old girl is on track to become legally blind in the next couple of years. She will remain cross-eyed for the rest of her life. All because her mother couldn't be a parent and force her to wear an eye patch for a couple of months.

Turns out there is other evidence of bad parenting. Kid brushes here teeth maybe once a week because mother doesn't make her brush her teeth if she doesn't want to.

Long story short... if you are a parent, be a parent. osteopath17

Don't be too late....

19 year old comes on a gurney, deep coma, respiratory depression, foam issuing from the lips. Mother frantic. EEG reveals the pattern typical of subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, a sequela of common measles.

It's preventable, people. But not curable. They buried him a few weeks later. sockalicious

Damn Lyme Disease!! 

I'm a veterinarian. Everyday I have to convince some reluctant pet owner that I'm not in the pocket of "Big Rabies" and I'm making recommendations for preventative care based on state law, medical research and good judgment.

The memorable people are the ones who listen to me, my advice saves their pet's life in one way or another, and they're still pissed about it.

"Your dog definitely needs a Lyme vaccine."

"Why? It's not perfect."

"Your last dog died of Lyme nephritis like two months ago. This vaccine is 93% effective."

Some people... TankVet

Teachers don't know it all! 


Not a doctor, but my 8th grade English teacher was anti-vax and pregnant at the time. She would constantly tell us about how bad vaccines were and stuff. So one day the science teacher spent an entire lesson just talking to us about how vaccines are good and don't cause autism. A few years later I was talking to my friend from 8th grade who still talks to our science teacher, and he said that the English teacher's baby had autism and wasn't vaccinated. dubby8880

State of Shock.

I think I may have told this story before, happened when I was in surgery residency on peds surgery.

Strongly anti-vax mother delivered sub 30 weeks. She refused to have even a Vit K injection. Baby predictably had a brain bleed and died. Brain death but organs were fine so they decided to donate. While waiting for the harvest the vent blew both the lungs with big pneumothorax and they were having trouble oxygenating. I had to put in chest tubes bilaterally with my staff on this brain dead 3 day old premie.

The mother stayed and watched. She was clearly in shock. I never saw her again. Sad, and preventable. thrice18

No reversals! 

Not a doctor but autism parent here,

A friend's child was also diagnosed with autism a few years back and a closeted anti-Vaxxer she knew immediately came to see her and informed her that it was all her fault because she had gotten the kid their vaccines - she then proceeds to tell her that the only was to reverse the "brain damage" was to feed the child nothing but raw coriander for three days and perform that MMS bull.

Thankfully my friend wasn't dumb enough to fall for that BS. GiftsandCurses88

Cheetos are not the answer! 


Community health educator here.

I get to see cycles of poverty and miseducation perpetuate as parents pass along bad info and kids don't pick up the right info at school. Or their parents tell them to ignore that info. There was a mom with a 4 year old who rallied against vaccines and tampons because they cause cancer.

She was feeding her toddler hot Cheetos at the beginning of class. Friendofhagrid

Time for earplugs! 

Not a doctor, but I worked at a community clinic for a few years, and my office was right next to our medical director's office.

One day I walked by her door (wide open) and noticed she was was sitting at her desk with her head in her hands. I knocked and asked if everything was alright.

Turns out she had just spent an hour in an exam room with one of her pediatric clients and his parents. The parents were divorced, one was anti-vax and the other was not. You can imagine how that went, lots of screaming and crying, with my poor medical director in the middle. alejo_sc

A few hundred dollars! 

Took care of a beautiful 6 year old girl who was intubated on a vent because her parents didn't think she needed a tetanus vaccine. She had stepped on a nail and not been treated. I cut a chunk of her foot out at the bedside and managed her vent for 2 weeks. A few hundred thousand dollars later she was better, but she did almost die. Vaccines save lives. Moof_the_dog_cow

Funeral plans...

Not a doctor, but when I was in nursing school, i was with a patient, the doctor came in and told the routine of vaccines, the mother said I don't think that is necessary my child should be healthy. The doctor than told her well you should plan for your child funeral just in case, since you don't want to take care of new born. I will have the student nurse get you some info on a funeral homes. The doc just walked out of the room. articwolph

Keep your Chemicals! 

I have one about homeopathy. Wife and I had a baby a month ago. We had a doula that was anti vaxxer essential oil person. When they removed my wife's placenta she began to hemorrhage. Instantly they bring a bag of pitocin and hook it up to her. I look over and the doula has angry eyes and is poking me to tell them to stop putting those "chemicals" in my wife. F**k that! I tell the doctor she does whatever she can to save her. Eventually they call in a surgeon and they take emergency measures to stop the hemorrhaging. She ended up losing 3 liters of blood, but the amazing professionals were able to save her.

After, the doula told me the reason my wife hemorrhaged was because she couldn't rub some bull essential oil on her legs. What a f**king idiot. HoneyBadgeSwag

Judgement Free Zone?! 

We've shamed people into recycling, picking up dog poop, and not littering, for the common good. I super-judge anyone walking their dog without a plastic bag. I hope we can get to a place where we consider vaccinations a similar public good and refusal to participate is considered selfish and anti-social for similar reasons. Gomarryourmom

Get a Therapist...

I'm a psychologist who works with kiddos who have developmental delays such as autism. Every couple of months I have parents who think that vaccinations caused their child to have autism. I present the facts but ultimately they are not really interested in hearing the reality. Sometimes I think they just need something to blame. I cant say I wouldn't find something to blame if I had a child with autism. It is heartbreaking. ShockerCheer

This is why I skip the dentist! 


The dental version of antivax is anti fluoride. I had a patient in school that was super anti fluoride and state he had been researching fluoride before I was born. When I asked him what school he went to he stated he did his research on his own...

One day I was doing a crown on this patient and he was gagging every few seconds. I stop and ask him if he is ok and he stated "it's the fluoride in this water. It is choking me." This was nano pure deionized water so I told him "sir, there is no fluoride in this water. It is reverse osmosis deionized." Even with copious amounts of water he did not gag again. TarHeel2682


Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?

You're not the only one.

u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?

Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.

I Know What I Like


My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.

The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.

- AardvarkAndy

A Stair Step

My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.

- RazerWolf04

My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.

- Apples9308


My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.

We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.

- FormalMango


I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.

My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.

- dontcryformegiratina


With an ex:

"I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."

She did not understand this.

I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.

"Now how much do you have in your hand?"

She still didn't understand.

She somehow has a college degree.

- Speedly

Mini Wheats

When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.

- shicole3



I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.

- CorrectionalChard

That's Unfair

My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.

His answer was that I was being unfair.

- ShyAcorn

Pure Masochism

How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."

To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.

- argofire

Emailing NASA

A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.

- derawin07

A Non-Standard Ruler? 

I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.

Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.

7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.

Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.

Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.

- Lovelocke

This Unusual Vegan Argument

Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.

He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.

That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."

Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.

Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.

- onlytruebertos

Monty Python

In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.

It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.

- Skrivus

Albert or Arnold


Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?

- Gerrard1995

Below Sea Level

I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.

I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.

This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.

- -justforclout-


Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.

Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.

An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.

I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.

- TK-DuVeraun

Whales Are Mammals

I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.

- kawaii_psycho451


Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.

- sun_phobic

Shower Schedule

My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.

- LibrarianGovernment

No Balloons For Grandma

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.

He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.

He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.

- Dskee02

Spontaneous Dolphin Existence


How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.

- thebeststory

Male Chickens

I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.

- bee_zah

Lightning McQueen

Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.

- 23071115

But ... Ice Floats

Waiter/Host here.

Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.

Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.

- FarWoods

Time Zones Exist

Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.

- JustARegularToaster


My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?"

"that's orange"

"no, it's red"



It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.

- droneb2hive

Andre 2000?


I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)

The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.

The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.

It was stupid.

- P1ST0L_Wh1PP3D

Stars Like Our Sun

I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.


Richard Nixon

I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.

I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.

Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.


Balloon to Heaven

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.

And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.


Binder Clips

I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.

He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.

It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.



Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".

My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.




3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.

I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.


Lingerie Boxes

Late to the party, but there it is.

I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.

Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.


Wicked Witch of the West

I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.

I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.


Keep Your Hands to Yourself

Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.

They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.

So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.



My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.

I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.

We didn't speak to each other for four days.



How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).

How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.


Dogs and Chocolate


I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.

I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.


Is water wet?

My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.

For the record, it is no to both questions.


Mission Trip

A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.

He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.


Dragon Tales

One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.

It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.


Green Or Yellow?

When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.

Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.


Stars In Their Multitude


I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".

I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.



My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".

It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.


Hot Water

About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.

She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.

We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.


Biology Class

I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"

I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.

I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...


Solid Or Liquid?

Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.

For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.