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Make-A-Wish Workers Reveal Which Wishes They Had To Say No To

Not all dreams come true....

Illness and a painful end of life is a harrowing thing to witness. It's all too unfair and cruel to personally experience; but it is an unfortunate part of many lives. Life will eventually end for all of us and the best we can hope is that we lived well and went peacefully or on our own terms. There are fantastic groups out there who assist in making pain slightly more bearable.

Specifically the 'Make-A-Wish Foundation' has been making dreams a reality for a very long time. They know that that one thing, an idea, a hope could brighten or extend a sick person's life. So they do their best to make as much happen as possible but as is life, nothing is guaranteed and they have to disappoint more often then they'd like.

Redditor u/abeannis wanted to share the tales of some wishes, good and bad by asking... Make-A-Wish recipients and workers, what were some wishes you HAD to say no to?

50. But it's the Way to Oz! 

I work in pediatric brain tumors, and the best wish I've ever heard was from a 10 year old boy who wanted to chase a tornado. Unfortunately they couldn't do it, but I think he was able to give a weather report on live TV. ValuableNerve

49. A Family Concern.

My step cousins daughter had leukemia and she was offered a trip to Disney. Her mother accepted and this this douche bag of a father refused to let her go unless they also paid for his other kids to go as well. I don't think she ended up getting to go, but she's also healthy these days. OhioMegi

48. Keepin' it Classy Sunny Philly! 

I was 17 when I got granted a wish. I originally wanted to take my family on a vacation abroad. They told me it couldn't happen due to budget and international relations. My alternative was to meet the cast of "Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia." They flew me and my parents out to Fox Studios in LA and I spent the whole day on set with them. Danny DeVito is shorter in real life. RamenJunky

47. Darn Allergies...

I was a recipient of a Make A Wish. I was 4 at the time, and I really, REALLY wanted a dog. Make A Wish said no. Second choice: Disney World (of course).

My mom later told me they said no because of allergy issues, as well as the fact that at the time it wasn't determined what my chances of survival was, and giving a living animal to a family that might become bereaved soon wasn't on their top priority. vangoghoutwithme

46. To the Pearl! 

My son received a wish when he was 10. He wished to see Pearl Harbor (he's a major history buff). We got a 7 day cruise in Hawaii. The way we were treated was so unbelievably lovely. I tear up just thinking about it. wafflesandcats

45. California Love! 

We are a Wish family. My youngest was very ill and very disabled. When we got the referral they asked what we thought she would like and we asked for a hot tub. She loved the water so much. They were super excited to put it in because it would have been the first one granted.

While we were waiting for it to be installed, she had a central line placed and could no longer use a hot tub. We opted for a trip to Disneyland since we have family in Southern California who could go into the parks with us. We stayed in the Grand Californian for a week. It was an amazing time. oxymom2002

44. They Find A Way!

My family wanted to go to Hawaii. I had a head wound, a suppressed immune system that left that aforementioned head wound extremely susceptible to infection, and i could barely walk without a wheelchair within reach.

I got a decked out PC that lasted a good 7 years without needing an upgrade (other than OS). A ton of games and best buy gift cards. It allowed me to escape a lot of the horrible realities of my BMT. thenewestboom

43. Get it Together Biebs...

My sister had a wish to meet Justin Bieber and they had to decline that one because It was around the time when he first got arrested racing drunk or something like that so the next thing was Disney in Florida for a week and probably a better experience just really hot. GiftedHancok

42. Dogs Save Lives! 

My younger brother (9 at the time) was terminally Ill and too unwell to travel anywhere. He ended up asking for a dog, which they paid for including all vaccinations/bedding etc.

The dogs name is harry, and although my brother has since passed, harry continues to have a special place in our lives and is a very loved dog. Alpaca-toast

41. The Hulk

My friend was a wish kid (leukemia) in the early 90s and met Hulk Hogan because he wasn't creepy back then. Friend has no regrets on the choice as he still thinks it was a rad experience and still enjoys "wrestling."

My nephew was a wish kid but is non-verbal so my brother in law hijacked the wish and they did Bengals spring training and got lots of autographs and special treatment and merch. My brother in law acted like the whole thing was for him, not my nephew. (Who is still alive, but no change in health). Horriblewifey

40- The Pull Through Effect...

I once applied for Make-A-Wish for one of my young (she was 10) patients who had a terminal disease. She really really wanted a trip to Disneyland.

I rarely see her smile because she is always in pain. But when my specialist told her about the Make-A-Wish program that could grant her her wish, she showed us one of her very rare and sweet smiles.

But when I contacted the foundation, they refused her application because her condition was terminal and that they prioritized kids that were ill but not terminal as they were more likely to "pull through" from their illness with a bit of happiness. shorts_onfire

39. Shingle away the chance

I had the option for a wish when I was 12 but my parents wouldn't let me do it. I had a liver transplant at 8 months old, was on immunosuppressants until 12 when I got shingles and had to be hospitalized. While being treated for shingles they took me off my immunosuppressants and my body reacted well enough to stay off them. Im 23 now, and the only meds I take these days is for my crappy mental health, but I really can't complain. passerby010

38. One Ring to Rule Them All! 

My sister had a wish granted, we ended up going to New Zealand for 10 days. A limo drove us to the airport and we stayed in a cabin right next to the mountains.

We even did a Lord of the Rings private tour and saw many different sights over both islands. She has Spina Bifida and is doing great, I will always be in awe of how great Make a Wish was to us. It felt like we were in a dream. amlarson1111

37. A Cool Trip 

I was a recipient of a Make-A-Wish. I was a teen at the time and decided to do a shopping spree. They picked me up in a limo and gave me $3,000 tax free at the mall and then took me, my friends and my family to Benihana. It was a pretty cool experience, albeit maybe a little boring.

I still get Make-A-Wish newsletters and I saw one little boy went on a tour of a pickle factory! Pretty cool. LetsTron

36. Stone Cold Disney!

My boyfriend had cancer when he was just starting school, and when Make-A-Wish asked him what his wish was he said he wanted to meet Stone Cold Steve Austin. His mom, however convinced him to ask for a Disney Cruise, which he ended up loving just as much. littlemohican

35. A Group Effort

My sister was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma when she was 16. I was 13 and my younger brothers were 10 and 7. She chose a wish for the whole family. Being in CA, she opted for Disney Land. What still amazes me to this day is the attention to detail. We went to Disney Land, Knottsberry Farms, and Universal Studios. We had a limo pick us up from the hotel we stayed at and take us to different locations. Can you imagine how much fun that was for us as kids? We loved every minute of it. We got special treatment every place we went. I really can't say enough about what they did.

Another organization that deserves a shout-out is the Ronald McDonald house. We stayed there a lot when my sister was going through the radiation portion of her treatment. The kindness of the people that helped us there is just something I will never forget. We met so many other amazing families. There were lots of activities. I woke up really early one morning while we were there and I just wandered around the place a little aimlessly. I was so scared my sister wasn't going to recover. One of the employees saw me and sat with me. She made me hot chocolate. I remember telling her how scared I was and she held me while I cried.

Linda of the Palo Alto Ronald McDonald house, if you somehow ever read this, please know you made a big difference to a young scared girl and I've never forgotten it. It was 20 years ago and I still think about it all the time. My sister was successfully treated and is doing great. bettalovely

34. Some People are Gross!

The only person I know who got a make-a-wish said that the woman who set it up came back a few years later and asked for the cost back because "you weren't supposed to survive."

Found out she no longer worked for MAW and just wanted to make a quick buck. Marysthrow

33. Come on Harry! 

I had a Make A Wish when I was about 12. Originally I wanted to meet Daniel Radcliffe as I loved Harry Potter. Turns out he didn't do stuff with Make A Wish. I was a bit disappointed, but my make a wish people recommended that I still do something related to Harry Potter. So somehow they managed to get me tickets to the premiere of the fifth Harry Potter movie in LA. It ended up being way cooler than just meeting Daniel would've been. There were two other Make A Wish kids who also came.

It was the coolest experience I've ever had. I got to walk down the red carpet, see the movie before everyone else, and I got to go to the after party where I met all the actors anyway! I unfortunately didn't get a picture with Daniel Radcliffe, he was moving around a lot and had a bunch of security, I just barely managed to get his autograph. But Rupert Grint was the sweetest person and happily took a picture with me. I can't say enough good things about Make A Wish, they gave me a truly once in a lifetime experience. StarThoughts

32. Wheels on the Water

My daughter's first wish wasn't possible. She loves to swim, so the wish was a pool. While that would have been possible, they use the same generic deck with each pool, and it wasn't wheelchair accessible. Since she is completely wheelchair bound, this wouldn't work. Thankfully, the second wish idea worked well. Since she can't really travel, she was treated like a queen at a local amusement park.

They had a parade in her honor, and we spent several wonderful days there. Her room is still covered in pictures from the experience. If she had been able to travel, we might have gone with a Spongebob related wish. She really lights up when she sees anything related to the show. She's also the reason I get every single Spongebob meme. CueOminousMusic37

31. Chewy is the Bestest! 

Just recently I went to Hollywood Studios in Orlando, FL. I saw this kid, maybe 7, meet Chewbacca with the biggest smile ever. I then saw his family and some cast members tearing up. He was a make-a-wish child. I've never felt so sorry and happy for somebody so much at the same time. I hope that little guy beat whatever he had. jordo56

30. Success Rate

Relevant: Participants in the Make-A-Wish program see a decreased rate of hospital visits. It really is a wonderful program.



29. Oh, Steve...

I remember reading that when he was alive Steve Irwin couldn't meet with Make a Wish kids because it made him so sad that he would be crying for weeks afterwards. sl1878

28. Ride like the Wind! 

I can't remember if this one was denied or not, but I had a friend with an inoperable brain tumor, and she wished to go on a motorcycle ride when she was ten. So naturally, everyone who had a motorcycle and could travel to her came and they had a huge procession of motorcycles going around the county. It was honestly amazing. She died a little less than a year later but she was so happy that day. sarifall2001

27. And these of Our Lives 

When I was 10 I was home from school a lot due to being sick. I had a daily routine of watching Price is Right, Passions, and Days of Our Lives.

I wanted to wish to meet the cast of Days of Our Lives; I went to Disney instead. Ms__Roboto

26. Coordination is Key!

My mom worked for make a wish. A little kid wanted to build a tree house in his front yard. Make a wish denied him for being too hard to coordinate. Juicebarr

25. A Jaunt across the Pond! 

I got to do a wish when I was 17. It was late 90's and one of the wishes I was considering was meeting Will Smith.

I ended up deciding to go to England after discussing it more with my parents. I wasn't talked out of it or made to do what they wanted as I always wanted to go England anyway.

They flew my mum, dad, sister and myself to London for the week. Got a free lunch at a Hard Rock Cafe (I was feeling unwell so just drank soft drink) and a personal tour of the Tower of London (this was great and something I appreciate far more in hindsight). Overall I'm really thankful for the experience. allergic_to_fire

24. The Best We Can Do! 

My friend worked with a local chapter and I have to say, the stories I've heard are amazing, the organization really makes a huge effort to honor every wish as best as possible.

The only ones I've heard she had to say no to are ones that are clearly from a family member instead of the kid. The other terrible situation is when the parents can't resolve their own problems and put them aside for their sick child. There was one situation where one parent wouldn't sign the forms needed to authorize a wish because they were so mad at the other parent. It was heartbreaking and terrible. Joessandwich

23. No Lives Taken

Obligatory not a worker or recipient but I read a story a while ago that a child was dying and wanted to go hunting before he died. Apparently Make a Wish has a rule where they don't deal with firearms so a bunch of hunters got together and took him on a hunting trip. Midnightoclock

22. The Basics

I did make-a-wish. I feel like my wish was super lame. I had to be 9 or 10 and I wished for a laptop it was before laptops were mainstream I guess. But my family was also pretty impoverished so it was a big deal to me, being the only kid with a computer at home. They didn't get me a laptop but as desk top instead. They also bought me adobe photoshop and a game I can't remember. It had a DVD player, when DVD's were barely coming out It was cool and I was able to get school work done.

I used it for a long time. My sister had a wish too, she was like 5 and got a limo ride to toys 'r us.

Should have gone to Disney though ...still haven't gone yet.

Also hi to all the fellow cancer kids of the past! jellypops555

21. Rock On

My buddy was dying in high school from cancer and wanted his band to open for Jimmy Eat World / Tenacious D / Weezer around 2001. He was told everyone was cool with it until it got to Rivers (Weezer singer) and he was told Rivers personally said no and shut the entire thing down. He got to hang with Incubus back stage at a show instead and told me he was sure Incubus had no idea why he was there. penguinrider

20. Out of Spite! 


As a wish granter I do the part where we meet the child and the parent(s), and then as long as no one is a nasty person we get to actually grant the wish. Our central office staff are the lucky folks who have to track down the non-custodial parent and ask for their permission to grant the wish for the child. I am just a volunteer so the paid people do the extra challenging stuff like that.

I would hope they at least say something to make them re-evaluate their life for denying their child a wish, when that child not only has a life-threatening illness, but also clearly a not-so-happy family life on top of it all. Every single time I've had a non-custodial parent refuse its been because of spite towards the other parent. They don't want that parent getting a free trip or any benefit from the wish. Not to say there aren't other people who have had other reasons to decline, but that's sadly been the reason in my experience. KitsyLou

19. Fam, get it together! 

I'm a Volunteer Wish Granter and we recently had to turn down a wish to stay in a 5 star, over the water bungalow room, in the Maldives. It was really sad to have to turn the wish down however, MAW does ultimately have a budget for each kid and this one was going to exceed that budget by triple. We were able to send our wish kid to a similar exotic location and had them set up in an AirBnb for the week with a rental car and all turned out well.

One wish I was on was really sad. The wish kid wished to swim with dolphins so we were going to send the wish kid and the family to Hawaii for a week. However, the wish kid lived with grandparents as well as the parents and aunts and uncles in one house and there was a big rift in the family when the grandparents and aunts and uncles found out they weren't included to go to Hawaii. We ultimately had to do a local wish in its place and just have a day adventure with the wish kid, sibling, and parents. textmewhenyougethome

18. Not your time, people! 

Usually the wishes we had to say no to were from the kid's family members. There was always some uncle, grandma, cousin, sibling or parent who wanted to hijack the kid's wish. perroblanco

It's not the condition anymore right? I read from few other comments that nowadays they have a long chat with the kid to ensure that the wish is not influenced by parents or anyone else Lt_Frostbite

17. King Corey! Sammy Who?

A classmate of mine (now passed) got a meet and greet with Sammy Sosa. The understanding from the Make a Wish people was that Sammy would sign autographs and sit with the family for a while. Now, this kid was ALL ABOUT SAMMY. He had his jerseys, loved Sammy's little leaps after home runs, and even was big into Pepsi because of Sammy too.

When the day came, Sammy showed up late. He didn't respond when the family greeted him (it was described as a sullen silence) signed a glove and then walked away.

My classmate started crying once it was clear Sammy was not going to come back. Right when the parents were about to leave another baseball player named Corey Patterson saw my classmate, came up, signed everything they had, and talked and joked around with the family for over a half hour. Corey became my classmates favorite player that day - and I think he lived perhaps a year after that moment.

At his funeral my classmates' picture with Corey was one of the prominent pictures - that moment and day truly, truly meant the world to him (he was around 10-11, iirc)

To this day I'm unsure if someone from Make a Wish found Corey or if the moment was as spontaneous as it was described to me, but no matter what Corey will always have a special place in my heart because of that story. ArbyLG

16. Why Harry, Why?!


I received a wish when I was 15. At that time I was madly in love with Harry Styles and of course wanted to use my wish to meet him and spend the day with him. After telling the wish coordinator this she broke the news to me that if I were to meet him it would be a year from then, with about 15 other kids for a VERY brief moment (a hello and a photo). Upon hearing that disappointing news I changed my wish and instead went to Australia for 10 days with my family and swam in the Great Barrier Reef. courtneywtf

15. Thanks for nothing, Japan... 

My little brother has had 2 heart transplants so far and will probably get another before it's all said and done. His wish was to go to Nintendo. Well Nintendo Japan doesn't grant wishes, but Nintendo of America does. He stayed in Seattle for a few days and had a day long tour of Nintendo. Unfortunately Reggie wasn't in the office that day but the Treehouse staff led him around all day. This was right before the Switch came out so he got to play Breath of the Wild before anyone. They gave him a sweet goodie bag and let him go on a shopping spree in the employee store. NeylandSensei

14. Never stop at "No!" 

This isn't my personal story, but of my uncle who passed away shortly after I was born.

He loved The Terminator so much that he wanted nothing more than to meet Arnold Schwarzenegger. Due to having a busy schedule, Arnold's agent had to deny him of his wish a couple of times (was filming for the 2nd Terminator).

My uncle was so determined to meet Arnold that he then changed his wish to meeting Maria Shriver (Arnold's wife).

Because of his determination he was allowed on set of Terminator 2: Judgement Day. He got to meet Arnold, Maria, and Arnold's stunt double. My mom still has the pictures and it makes my heart soar.

Make-A-Wish is fantastic and I'm so glad my uncle got to live out his dream. :) keish_

13. Who needs the Oscars?

I've been the recipient and later on after my health improved I volunteered as a wish coordinator.

My original wish was to attend the Oscars. That got denied by the Academy as they do not grant wishes. I wound up going to the People's Choice Awards as a VIP. Make-a-Wish flew my family to LA for a week, all expenses paid. They got us a limo for the show, paid for my dress, hair, and make up, we walked the red carpet, and were seated very close to the stage. It was a once in a lifetime experience. The generosity of the volunteers is remarkable. They even had someone greet us at the airport on arrival. It was extremely important to me that my brother and sister were included in my wish because my illness had robbed them of part of their childhoods. I am forever indebted to everyone who made my wish possible.

When I turned 18 I decided to volunteer as a wish coordinator to give back to an organization that did so much for me. I met with wish kids and their families. We would always arrive with a gift for all the children in the family based on a little survey they filled out. We'd talk with the child and help define their wish. It's important to determine the child's true wish, and make sure that it isn't influenced by parents. The most common wish is to go to Disney.

Celebrity meet and greets are the ones that often can be turned down. First, because it is undefined what a meet and greet is ... it could be the child literally waving at someone and no one wants that, and second because not all celebrities grant wishes or can schedule time to meet wish kids. The coolest wish I worked on was a shopping spree for a boy who was confined to his room. He got 7k to go buy video games, TVs, a tricked out lazy boy, etc for the ultimate gaming setup. nan_adams

12. Safety First! 

My parents were wish coordinators for over a decade. They usually did rush wishes where the child wasn't expected to live more than a few days or weeks.

The last wish they did, the child wanted to ride on a tractor. He had only days left. My parents were friends with a local farmer and had an entire day set-up. Make-a-Wish denied the wish due to liability issues (the kid might fall off the tractor). He died before they could grant another wish and my parents never volunteered again. subjackie

11. Not always great ideas


When I was a baby until I was 5 I had cancer and got some wishes. My first wish was for a computer. I only wanted a computer because it came with a mouse. Yes, I thought it came with a real mouse. So obviously it was rejected because you can't have pets when you basically live in a hospital and my family was broke as f**k anyway so they couldn't give us a pet.

I ended up getting some dope googly eye glasses and an epic trip to Disney World. It was the only family vacation we ever got to go on. meowtain-os

10. Don't Get Crazy! 

My mom became a Wish Granter shortly after my son went on his Make-A-Wish trip. She's done many wishes and has even been Wish Granter of the Year for her region a couple times. The only one that was a flat out no was one recipient asked who asked for a boob job.

Other than that, wishes for new cars are always a no but Make-A-Wish will basically 'pimp out' a car already owned by the recipient. Other than that, she's been a Wish Granter for everything from trips to shopping sprees to even being on an episode of Fixer Upper where she was Wish Granter for two boys who wanted an accessible playground in their backyard. doodle_flaps

9. Nobama! 

My daughter is a wish kid. She wished to go to DC and meet the President (Obama). She did get to go to DC but didn't get to meet the President, which is just as well since he wasn't in office anymore by the time we went. She still got a great trip though, we met our Representative in his office and got go out on the floor of the House which is apparently not very common. Mister_E_Phister

8. Karma

I got to have mine granted in 1999 when I was 8. I wanted to see my two favorite baseball players, Mark McGwire and Chipper Jones play. Make-A-Wish set up everything. Hotel, tickets to the game for my whole family, and even tickets to Six Flags. Before the first game they brought us down for batting practice. Got to meet the whole Braves lineup.

Didn't meet a single player from the Cardinals, and we were told McGwire specifically declined the request. Braves won that game. I feel karma paid off too. Braves made it to the World Series, Chipper won MVP and is now a Hall of Famer. McGwire would later get marked for using steroids, will not make the Hall of Fame, and Cardinals finished under 0.500. Tsquared10

7. Challenge Accepted! 


I'm told that I was very sarcastic even at a young age.

When they told me I could wish for whatever I wanted, I thought I could think of something impossible: A big brick house so the big bad wolf can't blow it down.

Make-A-Wish people said they had ran out of bricks granting their last wish. They handed me a catalogue of playhouses to choose from. I defiantly flipped immediately to the back and poked one at random before probably returning to my Studio Ghibli movie.

And that is the story of how Make-A-Wish built me a two-story playhouse with heating/air/electricity.

I'm so glad they ran out of bricks. HillaryBoobPhD

6. Not getting played 

I worked in music for a few years, and we had to turn down wishes when the artist refused to do it.

I used to hate them for it... and then one day I had a really long talk with a (still) major international rock star who used to do it, but then stopped.

He said that at first it was awesome because he was making kids so happy, but after a while it just got too depressing... all he could thing about was the trail of dead kids he was leaving behind him.

He also had multiple experiences where the kid didn't even knew he be was, but one or both of the parents were creaming their pants... or stuff he signed for the kid would end up on eBay the next day etc. hokeyWB


This doesn't answer your question, but I had cancer when I was three and apparently had been approached by Make-A-Wish. Unfortunately I was only three and too young to actually make a reasonable wish so the wish fell to my parents.... they asked for furniture. FURNITURE! monie_25

4. The Dog House 

Word so when I was 15 I got to make a Wish. My Uncle really pushed to ask to meet Tiger Woods & play golf with him. I wasn't into that. Neither were my cervical tumors. I was getting better & I knew I was going to be ok. I told the Wish peeps that I wanted to bow out but they were pushy. Right in front of my Mom, I said I wanted to smoke weed with Snoop Dog and wouldn't accept any other Wish. That got shut down. I'm fine & 34 now. Nightmare_Moons

3. This isn't about you, mom! 

I was offered a wish by the make-a-wish foundation, my mom said to give it to someone who needed it. I still remember them trying to talk to me while I was in a wheelchair and my mom saying, "she doesn't need it, give it to someone who does."

My mom used to get teary eyed when she bragged about it to me and strangers. Now that I bring it up to her, she miraculously can't remember it. borderlinesweet

2. What Happened Taylor?!

My daughter was granted a wish. She really wanted to meet Taylor Swift and see her in concert, but Taylor was not touring at the time, so we (her parents) kiboshed that wish. She was not healthy enough to enjoy a long concert and I didn't want her to postpone her wish since we weren't sure if, or how long, she might live. In the end, she chose to go the Sea World resort in Florida and swim with the dolphins.

She ended up being scared to death of them and refused to even go in the water! Make a Wish sent us to Universal while we were there too and she had fun. That was six years ago, and she is now in remission. We took her to a Taylor Swift concert this last summer and I think she enjoyed it way more than she would have six years ago. peachykorey

1. Magic Mike 


A friend from school wanted to meet The Chippendales. She was 13. It was 1989. Australian Make A Wish weren't really happy about that. Her second choice was to see snow. They sent her family to Canada. Whilstler, I think. She loved it. smc642


Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?

You're not the only one.

u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?

Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.

I Know What I Like


My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.

The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.

- AardvarkAndy

A Stair Step

My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.

- RazerWolf04

My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.

- Apples9308


My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.

We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.

- FormalMango


I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.

My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.

- dontcryformegiratina


With an ex:

"I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."

She did not understand this.

I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.

"Now how much do you have in your hand?"

She still didn't understand.

She somehow has a college degree.

- Speedly

Mini Wheats

When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.

- shicole3



I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.

- CorrectionalChard

That's Unfair

My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.

His answer was that I was being unfair.

- ShyAcorn

Pure Masochism

How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."

To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.

- argofire

Emailing NASA

A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.

- derawin07

A Non-Standard Ruler? 

I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.

Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.

7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.

Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.

Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.

- Lovelocke

This Unusual Vegan Argument

Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.

He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.

That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."

Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.

Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.

- onlytruebertos

Monty Python

In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.

It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.

- Skrivus

Albert or Arnold


Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?

- Gerrard1995

Below Sea Level

I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.

I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.

This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.

- -justforclout-


Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.

Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.

An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.

I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.

- TK-DuVeraun

Whales Are Mammals

I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.

- kawaii_psycho451


Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.

- sun_phobic

Shower Schedule

My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.

- LibrarianGovernment

No Balloons For Grandma

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.

He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.

He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.

- Dskee02

Spontaneous Dolphin Existence


How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.

- thebeststory

Male Chickens

I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.

- bee_zah

Lightning McQueen

Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.

- 23071115

But ... Ice Floats

Waiter/Host here.

Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.

Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.

- FarWoods

Time Zones Exist

Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.

- JustARegularToaster


My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?"

"that's orange"

"no, it's red"



It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.

- droneb2hive

Andre 2000?


I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)

The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.

The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.

It was stupid.

- P1ST0L_Wh1PP3D

Stars Like Our Sun

I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.


Richard Nixon

I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.

I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.

Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.


Balloon to Heaven

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.

And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.


Binder Clips

I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.

He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.

It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.



Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".

My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.




3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.

I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.


Lingerie Boxes

Late to the party, but there it is.

I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.

Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.


Wicked Witch of the West

I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.

I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.


Keep Your Hands to Yourself

Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.

They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.

So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.



My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.

I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.

We didn't speak to each other for four days.



How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).

How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.


Dogs and Chocolate


I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.

I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.


Is water wet?

My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.

For the record, it is no to both questions.


Mission Trip

A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.

He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.


Dragon Tales

One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.

It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.


Green Or Yellow?

When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.

Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.


Stars In Their Multitude


I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".

I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.



My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".

It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.


Hot Water

About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.

She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.

We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.


Biology Class

I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"

I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.

I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...


Solid Or Liquid?

Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.

For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.