Jewellers Reveal Stories Of People Buying Engagement Rings – Then Promptly Returning Them.

It can be either one of the happiest or most heart wrenching days of your life the day you propose to your partner. Not only have you bought this beautiful and usually expensive ring, but you're putting everything on the line for the one you love.

Well, things don't always go as planned. These jewellers share stories of the not-so-lucky ones who end up returning the wedding ring, instead of having a partner wearing it for eternity.

1/20. I've been in this business for over 10 years, and I've sold enough engagement rings that I really have no idea how many are out there at this point. Sooner or later, this is bound to happen. I've had it happen a few times. Here's the worst story.

A couple comes in together (let's call them Mike and Stephanie). Mike is ready to spend about $20k, which is a LOT of money for a young couple, and I'm showing them rings in that range, but Stephanie keeps pushing for more, and more, and MORE. Finally, with enough begging, pleading, smiles, and thinly veiled sexual promises, she talks him into a 3 carat center diamond, with an elaborate setting, for around $30k. Honestly, I don't feel great about having to witness this whole exchange, but at the end of the day, it's none of my business, so I complete the transaction.

About 3 weeks later, Stephanie comes to my office alone. I assume she needs the ring re-sized or something, but instead she asks me if I can remove the center diamond and replace it with a CZ (cubic zirconia, a very cheap diamond substitute). I'm surprised, so I stammer "sure, but why? Are you traveling or something and don't want to risk the stone?" She responds that it's nothing like that, she just prefers to have the CZ in there for now.

Obviously, every red flag in existence is waving in front of my eyes at this point, so I say OK, take her ring, and tell her she can come back in a day or two to pick it up with the CZ in it. But as soon as she's out the door, I'm dialing Mike. After all, HE'S the one who wrote me a $30k check, so HE'S my customer, not HER. Mike picks up, and after a moment of small talk, I ask him if he knows what Stephanie is up to. "NO!" is the shocked response.

Mike called me back the next day and told me that apparently Stephanie was planning to call off the engagement and return the ring, but keep the 3 carat diamond. He was obviously very upset, and asked me if I could give him a refund. I offered my sympathy, and gave him back his money. Needless to say, he was very grateful that I had called him.

About 2 years later, Mike came back with another woman who I liked much better. They're happily married with two kids now. Mike and I have become friends, and he's probably referred me 10+ other customers over the years. As for Stephanie, after she left my office that day, I never saw her again.


2/20. I only worked in jewelry for about a year and a half and it only happened once, but I had known the guy for about 12 years, putting us both in our mid 20's. He had a ring on layaway for about 3 months making payments, came in Christmas Eve to make the final payment and left the happiest man alive. Came back Boxing Day and I said "Hey! How did it go!" thinking he was in to get it re-sized to fit her finger.

I figured it out when he wouldn't even look me in the eye and walked right past me so a co-worker would help him instead.

She was his daughter's mother and instead of spending the rest of their lives together, she broke up with him on Christmas when he proposed.


3/20. I worked at a jewelry store in a mall close to my community college, and while my time there was short, I have experienced someone returning a ring.

It was the week of Mothers day and he was the first person I was able to sell diamonds to since I had finished my diamond certification course, or whatever its called. Anyway, he told me and my boss he wanted to propose to his girlfriend, who also happens to be the mother of his 2 or 3 year old son. He picked out the diamond that was a specialty diamond to the store (story continued on the next page...).

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After he purchased it I hadn't seen him for about a month, when he walked into the store asking to speak to my boss. After about 10 minutes and a sorrowful shoulder grab my boss started the return. Come to find out, his fiance had said yes but then I guess guilt started to settle in cause she wasn't sure if her son was his. Worst part about it all is he helped raise the child from day one and involved him in the proposal.


4/20. Back when I worked at a pawn shop there was this guy that came in all the time to buy jewelry for his live in girlfriend. He worked on offshore rigs and when he got home, he'd pick up something small and nice for his gf to show her he missed her.

Well one day he came in wanting a ring. Said he felt it was finally time. Awesome! We pick out this great ring that he knows she'll love, and off he goes. Says he's going to surprise her with it that night.

That night, I'm still at work. He comes in looking pissed. Apparently this time he came in after he told her he was heading back to the rig and he'd see her in a few weeks. He go the ring, then went back to the house to surprise her with the proposal, and tell her he had a few weeks off instead. He walked in on her and one of his best friend going at it. Not even an hour after he had left.

He asked if he could return it. I said yes. He asked if he could spend the cash right then, I said yes. He asked if he could look at our shotguns, I said no. I didn't want any part of that. He left, never saw him again.


5/20. I had to return my engagement ring. We were young and dumb and thought we were making mad bank. A stupid expensive ring? Sure, we have 12 months to pay it off.

Two weeks after we bought it, he gets laid off. We returned the ring and used the money for the down payment to move across the country.

Three years later I have a new ring. It isn't cheap, but something we could definitely afford.


6/20. I used to work in a pawn shop during the summers between college. We would say that once a week would get someone coming in to sell engagement rings that were turned down. It was always sad because my boss knew that he could get them for a cheaper price because the people just wanted to get rid of the rings. The poor souls would usually leave with around half the money the ring was worth just to move on.


7/20. I sold jewelry years ago as a second job. One guy will always come to mind. He was young, very shy, and only after seeing him a couple of times, and becoming friendly. He would come into the store once a week and look at the rings. When he finally settled on one, we put it on lay-away, and he would still come by to look at it each week. I came to really like him, he was a good and decent man.

We counted the days together, each week, we counted down to his big night.

The day he came and picked up the ring, I remember putting it in the fanciest box we had. I wished him well and off he went. When I didn't see him the following week, I just smiled, knowing he was happy.

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About a month later, he came back carrying the little bag. He said, "Can I give it back, Charlie?" I asked him what happened and he told me that she said no. I didn't ask any more questions.

I would have done anything to fix him at that moment, but I knew that there wasn't anything I could do or say to make him feel better. So I just told him that I was sorry and I rang up his return. As he was leaving, I said, "She has no idea what she's missing." I never saw him again.


8/20. Not a jeweller but I did return and engagement ring. The ex-fiancee and I had broken up for good in December of 2005 and I had held onto the ring because I was an idiot ("There's still and chance man!"). The following St. Patrick's day I decided to pawn the ring to get some booze money to go to a party with this girl I had been seeing since the middle of February. Pawn store clerk hands me a receipt with the invoice number and he notices that the last three numbers were 666. I thought that was pretty fitting. Best part is that the girl I was getting booze money for became my wife three years later I now have a beautiful daughter.


9/20. I worked at a jewelry store for 2 years. I'd say 1 out of every 15 rings we sold would be returned. I actually got pretty good at picking out the couples whose relationship wouldn't make it to the wedding. Its the little things that indicate couples are in love; holding hands, smiling, showing each other respect. The couples that were snippy at each other usually didn't make it.


10/20. Just out of university I ended up working in a jewellery store.

Now I mostly did the paperwork, but I did do sales occasionally too. One day a friend from high school came in. He'd been dating the same girl for the past 8 years and it was no surprise at all that he was going to propose.

So I started walking him through the rings. But the store had this stupid policy of the salespeople having more experience being allowed to lay claim to all the diamond sales. So Linda comes along and physically pushes me out of the diamond case and says that she'll take over (story continued on the next page...).

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Uh, no. We've known each other for 10 years, and I've been friends with the girl he's choosing the ring for since I was a toddler. He stands his ground and says he'll only buy from me, because he trusts me and he wants me to get the commission.

Well, Linda is pissed. Let me tell you. So she pulls me aside and says she'll 'help' with the sale. Now, I'd gone through diamond sales training and had the certificate at this point. There was no reason at all I couldn't do it by myself. But out manager was an idiot and she didn't care about rules. (She let one guy 'borrow' 2 carat diamond earrings overnight to wear to a party. Yes, you read that right.)

So I go back to my friend and Linda hovers over us. Eventually we pick a ring we both think my friend will like.

When we go to ring it up, my manager and Linda again physically push me away from the till and put it under Linda's number. My friend sees this and gets rather upset. I am told very harshly by my manager that since Linda is on the clock the sale has to be hers.

I just cave and let them do it. My friend is not happy, but he takes the ring.

A week later, after the proposal, they both come into the store. I give them congratulations and hugs and we chat for a few. Linda's looking really smug.

Except my friend isn't wearing the ring. She's wearing a different one. One from the store across the hall. I look at it and it's a beautifully designed ring, I would have chosen it too if we'd had anything like it.

So guess who's looking smug now? The three of us turn to Linda and we do the return.

Screw you, Linda.


11. I worked/work odd days here and there in a jewellery shop. Because I'm not full time and only do the odd day, I don't often get to see the outcomes, however there was one, fairly amusing time that I did.

The guy was young, late teens or maybe early twenties, and looked like a typical chav type. He went on and on about how much he loved his girlfriend, and how he wanted the perfect ring for her. I showed him a few, and each time he asked if we had anything cheaper. Finally, he settled on a 50 silver and cubic zirconia dress ring. Now, I'm not saying price should matter that much when it comes to engagement rings, but this was ridiculous, and the ring even looked cheap and tacky. Anyway, off the guy went, only to return literally a few hours later to return the ring because she'd (unsurprisingly) said no. He brushed it off, made comments about her being rude and such.

Then he topped it all off by trying to hit on me.


12. Not a jeweller, but from the guys point of view:

Went shopping for a ring. Found a great one. Picked it out, was going to pick it up after work on Monday.

Halfway through Monday, I get laid off, and have to return the ring so I can use the money to move across the country.

The jewellers were super nice about it and gave me my deposit back and everything, and called occasionally wishing me luck in finding a new job.

Sucked big time.


13. It's better to return a ring than to give it to your next girlfriend! Don't do this, please.

My ex, who was obsessed with the 'idea' of me (not the 'real' me), decided to propose and bought a cartier engagement ring. I overheard him talking to his mother (he still lived at home at 35 and she still ironed his underpants). After a few serious alarm bells, I finally got the courage to leave him before he got the chance to propose.

Anyway, he was upset about this break up and started frequenting my uni library. He saw a girl who has my hair colour and style and starts to chat to her. Turns out her name is the same as mine. They start dating and he turns her into a mini me, taking her to our holiday places and posing her in identical poses. They buy a dog the same breed as mine (he hated animals and was allergic) and CALLS IT THE SAME NAME AS MY DOG! He proposes and gives her the ring he chose for me.

A year after our breakup he 'bumps' into me, and was so proud to tell me their story. Yuk yuk yuk. Return the darn ring and get the poor girl her own.


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14. My brother in law is a jeweller. He told me that he can always tell when someone is going to return the ring. If the man and the woman are WAY off on how much to spend, it's over. In his experience, it's mostly the women who want to spend over 10 grand. When the guy wants to spend a few hundred and the woman wants to get a 2nd mortgage, it's over.

The other one is when the woman is buying the ring instead of the man. He says he sees it often and they used to take bets on when she would be coming back to try and return the ring. They don't do that anymore because most of the time the woman came back within a few months to return it.


15. I noticed an exchange on our sales report that was a fancy expensive wedding set that was traded for a nice gold Rolex.

He probably came out ahead there.


16. I sold jewelry for almost a year at a retail store and frequently we'd have young men come in (sometimes really drunk) to buy engagement rings for their girlfriends and they'd come back in a few days to return it. Personally, I guess because of my age and that I'm a woman, these men felt like I needed to hear about their "annoying girlfriends" and how they tried to mend their relationships with an engagement.


17. Not a jeweller or an employee of a jewelry store, but the unfortunate chump that had to wind up returning an engagement ring. After moving across Canada to chase who I thought was going to be my wife I found out she was cheating on me. Roughly 6 months earlier I had spent what savings I had buying the engagement ring that she wanted from a rather well known chain jewelry store in Canada. Well to make a long story short they wouldn't take it back, as much as I fought with them they pretty much told me I was S.O.L. I wound up selling it privately and losing roughly 5k in the deal.


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18. I have a friend who broke off the engagement and kept her ring anyway, convincing herself that she was owed it.


19. I worked at a pawn shop owned by a friend's relatives for a short time and the thing that comes to mind when I read this thread is the time I probably ruined a relationship.

A lady came in one day with a ring, she asked if we could appraise saying "He said he spent $5000 on it, I want to check to make sure" I thought it was funny, so I took the ring in the back, Checked the gold - fake Checked the diamonds - all fake

Head back to the lady and hand it to her saying it's definitely not $5k more like costume jewelry. Needless to say she was PISSED, stormed out of the store yelling "I'm gonna kill him!" I chuckled and went about my day.


20. I bought an engagement ring today. Finding this thread is not good luck.



Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?

You're not the only one.

u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?

Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.

I Know What I Like


My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.

The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.

- AardvarkAndy

A Stair Step

My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.

- RazerWolf04

My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.

- Apples9308


My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.

We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.

- FormalMango


I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.

My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.

- dontcryformegiratina


With an ex:

"I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."

She did not understand this.

I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.

"Now how much do you have in your hand?"

She still didn't understand.

She somehow has a college degree.

- Speedly

Mini Wheats

When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.

- shicole3



I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.

- CorrectionalChard

That's Unfair

My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.

His answer was that I was being unfair.

- ShyAcorn

Pure Masochism

How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."

To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.

- argofire

Emailing NASA

A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.

- derawin07

A Non-Standard Ruler? 

I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.

Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.

7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.

Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.

Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.

- Lovelocke

This Unusual Vegan Argument

Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.

He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.

That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."

Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.

Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.

- onlytruebertos

Monty Python

In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.

It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.

- Skrivus

Albert or Arnold


Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?

- Gerrard1995

Below Sea Level

I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.

I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.

This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.

- -justforclout-


Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.

Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.

An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.

I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.

- TK-DuVeraun

Whales Are Mammals

I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.

- kawaii_psycho451


Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.

- sun_phobic

Shower Schedule

My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.

- LibrarianGovernment

No Balloons For Grandma

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.

He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.

He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.

- Dskee02

Spontaneous Dolphin Existence


How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.

- thebeststory

Male Chickens

I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.

- bee_zah

Lightning McQueen

Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.

- 23071115

But ... Ice Floats

Waiter/Host here.

Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.

Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.

- FarWoods

Time Zones Exist

Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.

- JustARegularToaster


My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?"

"that's orange"

"no, it's red"



It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.

- droneb2hive

Andre 2000?


I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)

The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.

The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.

It was stupid.

- P1ST0L_Wh1PP3D

Stars Like Our Sun

I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.


Richard Nixon

I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.

I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.

Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.


Balloon to Heaven

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.

And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.


Binder Clips

I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.

He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.

It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.



Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".

My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.




3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.

I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.


Lingerie Boxes

Late to the party, but there it is.

I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.

Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.


Wicked Witch of the West

I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.

I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.


Keep Your Hands to Yourself

Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.

They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.

So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.



My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.

I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.

We didn't speak to each other for four days.



How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).

How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.


Dogs and Chocolate


I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.

I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.


Is water wet?

My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.

For the record, it is no to both questions.


Mission Trip

A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.

He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.


Dragon Tales

One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.

It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.


Green Or Yellow?

When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.

Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.


Stars In Their Multitude


I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".

I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.



My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".

It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.


Hot Water

About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.

She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.

We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.


Biology Class

I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"

I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.

I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...


Solid Or Liquid?

Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.

For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.