People Reveal The Most Compelling Argument Against Something They Actually Believe.

We all have a central core of beliefs that are integral to who we are and how we identify with the world. However strongly we believe these things, there can be a strong argument to the contrary that always makes you think.

Here, people reveal the most compelling argument against something that they strongly believe.

1/29. I believe it is every human's right to procreate, but being a teacher, I also firmly and personally believe people should have to take a test/pass a course/get a license before they are allowed to bring a human into this world.


2/29. I strongly believe in democracy and that everyone should have some real political influence. However like someone said "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter" and so I also think that a majority of people believe some pretty silly things and just don't look at issues/candidates in a rational way.


3/29. I'm a strong advocate against gun control and I suppose the best argument that I can't really debate against is the fact that school shootings would happen less.


4/29. I strongly believe the United States should establish a universal healthcare system based on the British, German, or Canadian model. Long-term, this would severely reduce costs, and significantly improve quality of care for all but the wealthiest Americans.

But I recognize that doing this would likely drive the US government greatly into debt in the short-term because it'd necessitate massive tax hikes that most Americans would be unwilling to accept.


5/29. I am firmly pro-choice. However, there's really no way of getting around the fact that abortion involves the destruction of a human life, or at least a potential human life.

Eliminating the option of abortion, however, effectively gives a government mandate for every woman who becomes pregnant to go through the difficult, life-changing, and potentially life-threatening process of pregnancy and childbirth with little to no regard for their circumstances. That's not something I can stand behind.


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6/29. I strongly believe that there is good in everyone.

The compelling counter-argument is all the hate, murder, injustice, etc. that exists in our world.


7/29. It makes me really uncomfortable when I see young children playing with iPads, iPhones, computers etc. At family gatherings often they are just given the technology so they will be quiet. Its gets them to stop running around, wanting to go outside and play, basically be a kid. I've seen other young kids who are not allowed to play with technology be so invigorated and focused on the iPad that their cousin or friend is using. Its scary. I would want my kid to go outside and get filthy, to run around, to read books and play with Lego.

But at the same time I use technology myself all day long and believe that adapting to it is important. I also wouldn't want my kid to be socially ignored for not having access to technology.


8/29. I regularly eat meat and defend meat eating, but I think there is something to the moral argument against it.

We can almost universally agree that it is wrong to torture or mistreat animals, but most (myself included), have no issue eating a burger.

If we realize that there is some moral status granted to an abused animal, it seems reasonable that we should attach some moral status to the animal that we choose to kill for our own gustatorial pleasure.


9/29. I'm Christian but I understand that the lack of evidence may turn some people away from religion.


10/29. I think smoking weed should be legal, but...

More teens will smoke. Teenagers who smoke marijuana daily are over 60 percent less likely to complete high school than those who never use. They're also 60 percent less likely to graduate college and seven times more likely to attempt suicide.

"Regular cannabis use during the teenage and young adult years is associated with poorer cognitive function (verbal memory, processing speed, cognitive inhibition, sustained attention)," Krista Lisdahl, director of the brain imaging and neuropsychology lab at the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee.

Heavy marijuana use causes poor memory and abnormal brain structure.

Marijuana use is associated with impaired sleep quality.

Cannabis during pregnancy endangers fetal brain development: Study shows that consumption of cannabis during pregnancy can derail how nerve cells form connections, potentially limiting the amount of information the affected brain can process, and with long-lasting effects after birth.

Smoking cannabis can shrink the size and shape of sperm.

The largest study of the effects of the main ingredient of cannabis has shown definitively that it can cause short-term paranoia. The Oxford-led research also, for the first time, identifies psychological factors that can lead to feelings of paranoia in people who take cannabis.

Marijuana has some addictive qualities. Study finds that 40 percent of those in an outpatient treatment program for pot use exhibited withdrawal symptoms a hallmark of drug dependence."

Smoking cannabis doesnt make you more creative: Cannabis with a high concentration of THC does not improve creativity. Smokers who ingested a low dose of THC, or none at all (they were given a placebo), performed best in the thinking tasks that the test candidates had to carry out.


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11/29. I strongly believe in taxing the super rich, in order to minimize the gap between rich and poor. However, the strongest argument against this, in my opinion, is that big businesses will move elsewhere in order to avoid tax, or have to fire people in order to reduce expenditure and either way people will lose jobs.


12/29. I believe in euthanasia, but legalizing could create a social pressure that when you're old and sick you should die to stop being a burden, which is a horrible thing to even think about. I had to deal with something like that when my dog got old and people would say things like its cruel to keep a dog alive that long.


13/29. I believe that copyright terms should be much sorter, about 10-20 years. The counterargument is that if you create something you own it.


14/29. In France in 2010 they passed a law that made it illegal to wear face coverings, aimed at burqas and hijabs. Ostensibly, they say it's in the best interest of public safety to be able to facially identify people, but also it was aimed at alleviating the subjugation of women in society and upholding secularism in France. Which all sounds great to me - but if you want to alleviate subjugation, you let people make decisions for themselves.


15/29. I think there are intelligent species that live elsewhere in the universe, but there's that whole fermi paradox thing.

From wikipedia:

The Fermi paradox is the apparent contradiction between high estimates of the probability of the existence of extraterrestrial civilization and humanity's lack of contact with, or evidence for, such civilizations. The basic points of the argument, made by physicists Enrico Fermi and Michael H. Hart, are:

The Sun is a typical star, and relatively young. There are billions of stars in the galaxy that are billions of years older.

Almost surely, some of these stars will have Earth-like planets. Assuming the Earth is typical, some of these planets may develop intelligent life.

Some of these civilizations may develop interstellar travel, a technology Earth is investigating even now (such as the 100 Year Starship).

Even at the slow pace of currently envisioned interstellar travel, the galaxy can be completely colonized in a few tens of millions of years.

According to this line of thinking, the Earth should already have been colonized, or at least visited. But no convincing evidence of this exists. Furthermore, no confirmed signs of intelligence (see Empirical resolution attempts) elsewhere have yet been spotted in our galaxy or (to the extent it would be detectable) elsewhere in the observable universe. Hence Fermi's question, "Where is everybody?"


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16/29. As a doctor, I firmly believe that the many years of studying and the knowledge I acquired makes me the only person competent enough to make treatment decisions for my patients, however, autonomy is a human right and no matter how ignorant you are, it's still your body and you should decide what is to be done for it.


17/29. So many of the world's problems would be resolved if the current human population was greatly reduced -- but no one (inherently) deserves not to live...


18/29. Big OpenSource fanboy here: Companies can maintain a codebase better and can actually do background checks that no foreign/domestic spy gets their defective-on-purpose code in.


19/29. I'm a whole heartedly religious... But I once heard "I'll never believe in a god that banished someone from paradise, for having a desire for knowledge" talking about Adam and eve eating from the tree of knowledge.

Hit me hard.


20/29. I'm a strong believer in secularism and I want laws not to have any religious consideration, and where all citizens obey the same set of laws. But coming from a country which is 80% Catholic, 5% Islamic, 12% Protestant, and a 2% block-voting Unitarian sect, most civil laws here are heavily influenced by religious norms.

Oddly enough, the greatest argument I recognize against secularist non-discriminating laws is that each person should be given the right to be ruled by a set of laws of his or her choosing. If my country suddenly implements different sets of laws for different beliefs, like how it was in the former Ottoman empire with its system of millets or confessional communities, then I'll gladly accept it. As long as there will be a non-religious millet/community which laws would afford me and my secularist fellows the greatest civil and social liberties.


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21/29. I'm very anti-establishment and believe that free market capitalism as a system promotes the absolute worst elements of humanity and is one of the biggest causes of suffering in the world.

Yet it's also taken us to the point where I can tell thousands of people what I think about it by clicking some plastic while I sip coffee made from beans that were harvested 3,000 miles away and watch a sporting event that's currently taking place in Denver from my front room in Glasgow (go Broncos).

Basically, it's the best and worst thing to happen to humanity, and if you ask me for a better system, I can't give you an answer; which is infuriating.


22/29. I'm generally in favour of Liberal/Libertarian economic policies, such as slashing taxes, public spending and deregulating markets.

Having said that, I realize that inequality inevitably increases through these conditions, and I don't really have a good argument against that point.


23/29. Many people (mostly adults) say watching people play games online (streamers and youtube) is stupid and why don't we just play the games ourselves. Counter-argument: sports.


24/29. I strongly believe that the death penalty should be abolished but when it comes to repeat offends (serial killers, etc.), rehabilitation isn't an option and the prison system is already so overcapacity.


25/29. I'm a libertarian. I believe people should be free to decide what's best for themselves. Then I leave my house and deal with you dumbies. I mean, I still believe in freedom. But I get it.


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26/29. I strongly believe that an independent central bank is a necessity in any modern society.

A good counter-argument would be to say that decisions that have such a massive effect on our economy should be subject to some type of checks and balances. The Fed's power could result in an abuse and/or mismanagement of the institution if the wrong person was made Chairman.


27/29. I don't like to look down on the books other people read. So many out there today hate reading so I feel like putting down someone for their book choices is almost demoralizing. I would rather have someone read something, even if it is not something I would read, rather than completely avoid books.

Enter: 50 Shades of Grey.


28/29. I believe strongly that people should be informed as possible, and weigh that info within their hearts and minds.

But, I also know that in the information age, information itself becomes a weapon; a mode of manipulation and deflection and circular argument. Sometimes knowing more just muddied the water.


29/29. I am firmly of the opinion that astrology is BS, and it really annoys me that I am a typical Cancerian.



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