People Share Controversial Opinions That Are Worth A Listen.
We all have one or two opinions that we try to keep to ourselves because we don't want to offend our friends and colleagues. But these Quorans threw caution to the wind in order to tell you what they really think. What do you think?
Class privilege matters much more than race or gender privilege.
Im a brown girl, which means that I am the subject of many a BuzzFeed dark is beautiful article. Yet I still experience and internalize the status and privilege generally associated with being a white male. Why?
Because I am part of the middle class. My family has been educated for generations, and my parents value my education enough to devote time and money to it. Money speaks more than race.
This is not to say that racism and sexism are unimportant. Of course not. I have faced some adversity for being female, from microaggressions to straight-up discrimination. I have heard racist generalizations about my ethnicity, and have been asked if I speak Indian. Other people have faced much worse racism and sexism.
These are issues that must be solved. But you cannot have social justice until you have economic justice.
I encourage white people to say the n-word. Before you comment and call me names, hear me out.
As a Black man living in the south, white people have called me a that word all my life. Personally, I never took offence because I don't really care about other people's opinions of me.
I remember one time, this white girl at my school called somebody the n-word on social media. The entire school was outraged. My peers started making that girls life a nightmare.
They constantly bullied her online, got her kicked off the cheer team, and somehow managed to get her fired from her job. We even had to have a school assembly where the students got to talk about how they felt.
Now, I understand why my peers were mad, but their anger is exactly why I encourage white people to say the n-word. (continued…)
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Black people can tell white people all we want, Don't say the n-word. It's racist and offensive and you shouldn't say it. But I guarantee white people will continue to say it.
So I got to thinking, Why is everybody so mad? It's just a word. Words only have as much power as you let them.
Of course, words have meaning. The n-word is a slur used to degrade and dehumanize Black people. I never let that word have power, and that's why I was never mad when white people used it.
By now you're probably thinking, But why would you want white people to say the n-word?
If you just let white people say the n-word, and don't give the word that power, it will never offend you. If white people were allowed to say the n-word, no one would care. And if no one cares, white people wouldnt even have a reason to say it. If no one cared, no one would get hurt.
So, yeah, thats why I encourage white people to use the N word; to take the power of the word away so nobody gets hurt.
All social programs, including welfare programs, should be administered and paid for at the state level.
There shouldnt be a country-wide Social Security or Medicare or Medicaid programs.
The rules for each program should be left up to the states. If, say, New York has an amazing welfare program, and people start to move there just for that program, New York should be able to regulate how long you have to live in that state before you can take advantage of their welfare program.
If the citizens of one state dont want to have any programs at all, they should have that right.
If the citizens of another state want to double the size of existing programs, and double taxes on their citizens as a result, they should be able to do that.
This includes healthcare. If one state wants to go single-payer, let them. That doesnt mean we all should.
Terrorism is not a major threat to the citizens of the United States, and should not be a major piece of any US political agenda. (continued...)
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Despite the fear-mongering and rhetoric, the idea that Americans are in imminent danger of being harmed or killed by radical Islamic terrorists is simply untrue.
This isn't even an opinion; my view on this issue is based on statistical fact.
Here are other causes of death in comparison to death from terror attacks, with terrorism highlighted in red:
As you can see, you're more likely to die from things like choking on your dinner, riding your bike, being poisoned by your angry ex-girlfriend, getting shot by your own communitys police officers, or even just a really hot day in Arizona.
Don't even get me started on the potential refugee attacks that people are so scared of these days. You are more likely to be eaten by a shark, struck by lightning, killed by your neighbors dog, stung by bees to death.
Even an asteroid is more likely to kill you than a refugee terrorist.
Despite these ridiculously low odds, the government has spent on average $500 million per victim on anti-terrorism. The government is spending $150 billion per year on one of the least probable causes of death, while the most probable causes such as heart disease and cancer only get $12 billion.
Why are we doing this? Fear.
Certain conservatives love to proclaim that this shows how no one really likes Democrats because look at all that red!
Liberals must be out of touch with common folk if all these people voted Republican. I dont care if many arbitrary sections of land voted for Trump; I care about real live people, and what they think, and how they vote.
To see that, you need to look at a different image. (continued...)
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Some even go so far as to say that people who live in rural, red counties should have more representation, because they live in what some Democrats call flyover country. But that is ridiculous. Just because someone lives on one side of an imaginary line, doesnt mean that their vote should count for more or less.
The map above goes beyond the asinine, nave idea of determining popularity by counting pieces of land. Instead, it allows you to see the reality of how people voted.
Islam isn't a good religion. As an atheist, I don't really believe that any religion is an inherently good one. Religions are objects and ideas; they can't be inherently good or bad.
Their followers may have good intentions or bad intentions, and the religion is often just a tool. I recognize that. Judaism thinks that God chose their specific people over others. Christianity has been used to justify horrible atrocities. I could go on and on.
I'm not exempting any religion from this, but in our modern political discourse, it seems Islam gets a hall pass. But you can criticize ideas without attacking the people who hold them. Were sitting at a crossroads where every type of system of belief should be examined closely.
Voting should be compulsory. Put the pitch-forks down and hear me out before you accuse me of being undemocratic.
In my opinion, everyone should have to vote, in the same way everybody has to complete the census. If you dont, you get fined.
When you turn up to vote however, you would still have an option to abstain, as well as all of the regular candidate choices.
So if you really didnt want to vote for personal reasons, you still dont have to. But the excuse of laziness doesnt fly anymore. You are turning up to the booth.
There are two reasons why I think this would work. (continued...)
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Firstly, this would give a much clearer idea of what the country actually wants.
For example, in the UK election yesterday, around 32 million people voted out of a possible 47 million. If all of those 47 million at least had to turn up, we would see a more accurate view of the country. Even if those 15 million decided to abstain, at least it would clearly show exactly how much of the electorate supported which party.
Secondly, its going to encourage more people to get into politics. If politics bore you (which it does for many people) and voting is optional, theres no real reason to read into it. But if youre now forced to turn up, many people may think to get more involved.
Overall, I think this is simply a fairer system, which is worth the slight hassle of having to vote.
There should be a license for voting.
Seriously, people need a license for fishing, dog breeding, and even marriage!
So why don't we have a license for deciding the future of our country?
Way too many people are uninformed on policies and current issues, and they oftentimes make bad decisions that negatively impact us all!
We complain about the idiots who are in office, but who do you think voted for those particular idiots in the first place? That's right, idiots who can vote.
I believe people should at least be able to pass a US naturalization test to vote.
After all, immigrants have to pass tests to become citizens; why not us?
If you can't even name your current representative, you should not be deciding on the future of our country!
Obviously, there are some issues with this theory, and there would need to be a non-partisan committee that tests people, but it is still feasible!
So get out there and vote… After you take a test that certifies you aren't a total idiot!
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No human is rational 100% of the time. Stop claiming you're a rationalist. You are not. You might be reasonable, well thought-out, etc. But don't pretend like you're this being of pure logic unphased by emotion, and were all running around screaming over non-issues. Bullcrap.
Basically, heres my view. If people are concerned about keeping alcohol out of schools, then make the age 19, as in most of Canada.
However part of the issue is the culture surrounding alcohol. In Europe, kids will have wine and it wont be a big deal. In Germany, you can have beer or wine legally when an adult is around when youre 14. Instead, in the US, its treated like a drug.
Now, Im not saying that getting drunk is not dangerous or that you can be careless while under the influence; Im just saying that it shouldnt be equated to a lot of other more dangerous drugs.
If it was introduced in small amounts when kids are young, they would become familiar with it and less likely to abuse it when they reach 19. We would avoid a lot of issues telling kids they cant have it at all because if youre told you cant have something, that just makes you want it more.
They do drug ed in health class and tell us not to smoke and all that. Along with that, they should educate kids about alcohol rather than making it a taboo. It would probably solve a lot of issues.
Freedom of speech means freedom of speech.
Im a libertarian and I believe the 1st Amendment of the Constitution is there for a reason; to defend the right of the individual to express her ideas, no matter how disgusting they are.
This doesnt mean other people need to accept her idea, this just means she needs to have the right to say it.
I'm against any form of censoring free speech, no matter how stupid and offensive it may be.
Why am I sharing this as controversial? Because according to a Pew Research poll, 40% of millennials think the government should be able to restrict freedom of speech if it is offensive. 40%!
Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?
You're not the only one.
u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.
I Know What I LikeGiphy
My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.
The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.
A Stair Step
My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.
My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.
My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.
We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.
I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.
My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.
With an ex:
"I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."
She did not understand this.
I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.
"Now how much do you have in your hand?"
She still didn't understand.
She somehow has a college degree.
When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.
I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.
My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.
His answer was that I was being unfair.
How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."
To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.
A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.
A Non-Standard Ruler?
I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.
Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.
7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.
Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.
Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.
This Unusual Vegan Argument
Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.
He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.
That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."
Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.
Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.
In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.
It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.
Albert or ArnoldGiphy
Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?
Below Sea Level
I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.
I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.
This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.
Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.
Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.
An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.
I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.
Whales Are Mammals
I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.
Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.
My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.
No Balloons For Grandma
My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.
He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.
He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.
Spontaneous Dolphin ExistenceGiphy
How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.
Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.
I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.
Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.
But ... Ice Floats
Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.
Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.
Time Zones Exist
Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.
My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.
"Hey could you hand me that red _____?"
"no, it's red"
"YOU CANT EVEN KNOW"
It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.
I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)
The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.
The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.
It was stupid.
Stars Like Our Sun
I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.
I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.
I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.
Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.
Balloon to Heaven
My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.
And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.
I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.
He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.
It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.
Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".
My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.
3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.
I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.
Late to the party, but there it is.
I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.
Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.
Wicked Witch of the West
I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.
I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.
Keep Your Hands to Yourself
Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.
They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.
So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.
My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.
I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.
We didn't speak to each other for four days.
How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).
How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.
Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.
Dogs and ChocolateGiphy
I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.
I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.
Is water wet?
My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.
For the record, it is no to both questions.
A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.
He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.
One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.
It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.
Green Or Yellow?
When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.
Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.
Stars In Their MultitudeGiphy
I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".
I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.
My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.
"Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".
It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.
About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.
She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.
We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.
I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"
I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.
I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...
Solid Or Liquid?
Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.
For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.