People Share The Saddest Things Have Witnessed In Public That They Will Never Forget.

We don't live in a perfect world, and there are events in our lives that remind us of that. The moment when you realize it is a cruel world can be tough. Here is a list of people who were brought back down to earth after witnessing something sad in public.

1. I Remember Her Tangled Hair Waving With Each Blow

I was 8. I and my family were driving down to Florida. We were on the Mass turnpike, and everything was extremely boring; I was just watching the trees and cars go past my window. Then I notice a car has stopped by the side of the road. A man and a woman were outside behind the car. As we got closer I saw that the woman was on all fours, her head hanging, and the guy was punching and kicking her. The image is still in my mind. I could see her face. I can see her long, tangled hair waving with each blow that the guy gave her. I can see the blood.


2. Absentee Parents on Site

Several years ago I was at the MGM theme park standing in line for the "Tower of Terror" ride. It was a gray stormy day and the ride itself is a fairly intimidating edifice (for those of you who don't know it is built to look like a spooky old hotel). In front of me in line was an early thirty-something couple with two fairly young kids. The man was on his cell phone the entire time paying no attention to his family while his boy (about 8 years old) is crying because he is scared of the whole experience. The boy's mother gets out her cell phone and calls the boys grandmother and says 'your grandson is being a wuss and ruining this vacation for all of us.' Class act.



3. How Ungracious Can She Be?

I used to work at a Wildlife Company at the local mall (you know, rain sticks, statues, Yanni CD's). One day a little boy came in wanting to buy his mom a present. He was around 7 or 8 years old I'd say. The kid wanted to buy a present for his mom and had a handful of assorted bills and change. We counted his money to see how much he had and I took him around the store and showed him different things he could afford to buy. As we were looking he saw a coffee mug with a nature scene on it that he loved, but he didn't quite have enough money for it... he only had about $5 and some change. I told him to go ahead and get it and chipped in some of my own money to make up the difference. He left the store smiling.

A little while later this angry woman came dragging the kid back in the store. She slammed the mug on the counter and insisted on an immediate refund. I thought she was just mad because I helped the kid spend his money or something, but then after I gave her back the money she grabbed the kid by the hand and dragged him quickly out of the store fussing at him saying, 'Why would you buy me something like that! I would never use something like that!' My heart broke a little.


4. Mother's Tears Hurt More Than The Ungrateful Son's Wails

When I worked at GameStop! I was a lonely grunt organizing video games, suddenly this bigger lady with a cane came in with an opened Xbox 360 demanding a full cash refund even though the system was open, used, missing the game it should have come with, and some sauce was on the system. GameStop policy is 'you open/it's yours'

Turns out her son had stolen her disability money that they rely on for food and rent, came to the mall and used all of it on the video game system. She was to the point of tears because we couldn't help her, meanwhile her son kept grabbing different games and was adding them to the counter demanding that we ring them out for him because she was paying. The look on her face was incredibly sad, like her soul had been snatched away. My manager ended up giving her a 80% refund even though they had kept the system for more than 2 months. As she walked out of the store dragging her bawling 12 yr old with her walking condition was painful to watch.



5. A Random Act of Kindness Turned His Day Around

Last summer. I took my children to the playground near the river one day. They have these benches along the bike path, each inscribed with a dedication to a loved one that has passed (Bob Smith 'Let's sit here awhile longer,' things like that) where I saw a man in his 40s sitting alone with his bike leaned up against the bench. He had a CD player and his headphones in, obviously prepared for a nice afternoon of watching the river and enjoying the day. After a bit I glanced over to see the man fiddling with his CD player, becoming agitated. He started cursing and finally stood up and threw it to the ground, then turned and fumbled with his bike to leave. My children came up and asked, "Mommy why is he so mad?" I said I'd find out.

I walked over to the man as he was about to leave and said hello and I noticed he was having a bad day. He immediately apologized, thinking I was going to scold him for swearing and making a scene, then explained he had just gotten a CD player from a thrift store and wanted to listen to it while relaxing but it wasn't working. He had just gotten back from his doctor, who told him his treatments weren't working and his cancer was terminal. I told him to wait a moment and went back to the van where I had my CD player I hadn't used in years since buying an iPod.

There was this look of confusion and gratefulness and sadness he had when my husband and I offered it to him, and of course many tears were shed by both the man and I over a conversation about his life; someone had broken into our garage that morning and stolen hundreds of dollars in tools and fishing equipment. It turned out this man had an amount of rods and reels he never used and didn't intend to. After a couple of hours of talking and encouragement, he took us to his house gave us these things, and I hooked him up with some more CDs.

I always remember him when we go back to the park: this man with his back to us, shoulders slumped a bit, his bad day just getting worse. Sometimes you can just see the hopelessness surrounding someone, and it breaks my heart.



6. Sometimes the Pain Is too Great to Hide

I was at Walmart a couple of years ago, looking for something in the electronics department. Walked up to the checkout stand just as the cashier took a personal phone call. All of a sudden she lets out this awful scream, and just completely loses it, sobbing and crying. Everyone is standing there in shock, one of her coworkers came over to comfort her, and I went on my way.

Turns out, she just found out her husband died in an accident. To this day that sticks in my mind as the saddest thing I've ever seen.


7. We Felt the Guilt of Not Helping Her

Tina was one of the 'horse girls.' Every school has one: socially inept but a bit too in love with horses. Sad to say, even the kindest of kids began to make fun of her when she started to wear a saddle to school.

One day, in Geography, the door suddenly burst open. It was Horse Girl's dad. He grabbed her by the hair and proceeded to beat the hell out of her. She did nothing but silently weep and stroke her plastic pony's hair.

Turns out, he was angry because she was learning about different countries in school. Police were called and she was escorted out. We never saw her again.

Even us 7th graders realized that her horse obsession was an escape from her abusive father. We made things worse and we never had the chance to apologize. I don't know if she is dead or alive - or if alive, whether she's able to have anything approaching a fruitful life.


8. One Is the Loneliest Number

I was a waitress when I was 18. I worked one Father's Day and this old man was seated in my section; he did not order anything because he said he was waiting for his children. He was dressed really nice and had this big smile on his face. After about 15 minutes, I asked him if he wanted an appetizer or anything while he waited. He was looking less happy at this point. He said no, he would just wait for his kids.

I ended up talking to him quite a bit between taking care of other tables. He had not seen his children in over 25 years and they had promised they would be there that day. He waited for an hour and a half. They never showed. When he left, he was crying silently and had not eaten anything.


9. Try a Little Kindness

I was in River Island once shopping for some new jeans and an overweight girl came out of the changing room wearing a dress as I was waiting and asked her mother how it looked. Her response was something like 'You look too fat in that, maybe we should buy you something baggier for prom.'

I said I thought she looked beautiful. Her mother looked at me like I'd stabbed her in the back, but at least she got a compliment from one person that day.


10. He Didn't Know How Many People Loved Him

April 14th, 2010 I got word my best friend had committed suicide. He left a suicide note in the mail and it was sent to me. The basic essence of the part that pertains to this story was, 'I'm sorry, I know this will be hard for you but I can't do this anymore. I don't think this will hurt anyone else but you.' I've told the story of this before, but I have never shared what happened that Monday at school. He and I always wore suits to school on Mondays, matching ones at that.

Anyway, stayed up all Sunday night trying to decide whether or not to wear it. Was it disrespectful? Should I do it in his memory? Should I go in all black instead of the shirt and tie we had picked out on Thursday? I decided I was going to wear it, with the shirt and tie we had picked out.

With the school running amuck with rumors, random crying people, and an overall buzz over what had happened, I walked into this 3000 kid school with my held high, suit on, and a tear running down my face missing the best friend I had driven to school every day for 3 years. Complete silence spread through what is normally loudest corridor in the school. Some people began crying uncontrollably, probably realizing he was actually gone. I observed the aftermath of his death through the school. I watched all the broken hearts, the shattered plans for the summer, the destroyed senses of security, and I watched as people he thought didn't even know him cry and breakdown over his death. If only he had known that so many people cared about him. If only he knew that it wouldn't just hurt me. I wonder if that would've changed his mind.

His parents chose to have an open casket funeral. I walked in after the most emotionally empty and draining rugby practices I've ever gone to (He was my teammate). I walked in wearing that suit, carrying the game ball from our state championship that we won last year, signed by every member of that team. I walked up to his casket, his mother screamed in horror, pain, and emotional torment as I walked up to his casket, and placed the ball in his hands as he had held it while he scored the game-winning try with that very same ball. I looked at his suit, we were matching... Matching for the last time. Many tears ran down my face as his mother collapsed at my feet. She had taken a picture of us every Monday since we started wearing the suits. Watching the pain on her face had to be the most horrid, emotionally painful, and saddening thing I have ever seen in public.



11. A Restaurant Isn't Always the Place to Break-Up

A couple months ago, I was waiting tables at my job. I had this section which included three two-person tables right next to each other in a booth. It's pretty cramped there, and everyone can hear just about everything you say.

Halfway through the night, this lady sits at my table and says she's just waiting for her husband. She is all smiles at this point. Then the husband comes in, looking grouchy, but the wife seems completely oblivious to his obvious discomfort. I get their drinks, their orders, and their food. After their done eating, I go over to ask if she wants a box. They both look pretty grim.

The husbands says, 'The marriage is over. I've been having an affair for a while now, and I just don't love you anymore,' WHILE I AM AT THE TABLE. The lady is bawling but trying to hold it in. She manages to ask me to box up her stuff. As I walk away from the table, I look around my section-- every table is turned toward them and is either looking sympathetically at the lady or with daggers at the dude. They left right after that.


12. What's a Mother to Do?

I was doing some shopping one day in a plaza with various stores, one of them being a GameStop. So I'm about to start walking to my car when a mom and her child of no older than 10 years old walk out of GameStop. She clearly denied him a game or something and he had lost his mind. As they are walking away from the store the kid goes up to her, grabs her by her hair and rips her to the ground. Everyone who saw it was horrified. The mother just got up started walking away sobbing as the kid picks up handfuls of bark mulch to throw at her. It was very sad to see this woman have no control and the literal abuse she was subjected to was unbelievable.


13. The Jekyll and Hyde Daddy

I went on a girl scout camping trip when I was 12 or so. One of the girls in the troop was the mayor's granddaughter and her father was the troop leader (the mayor's son). The troop leader was a really nice guy to the public, a lawyer and very involved in the community.

One night during the trip, his daughter had taken a shower and we we're all getting ready for bed when he is doing a check to make sure the bathroom is clean. Finds a pair of underwear and asks nicely who forgot their underwear in the bathroom. His daughter finally comes forward. He pulls her into the bathroom and starts screaming at her. Horrible belittling things. She is sobbing and gasping for air (asthmatic). He opens the door, shoved her out and tells her in his sweet voice, 'you should probably get your inhaler.'

Wishes us all sweet dreams and leaves the room.

Crickets except his daughter crying.


14. Lean on Me

I was walking around downtown once and saw a homeless man holding a kitten and sitting on a duffle bag. All I could think was 'They're keeping each other alive.'


15. No One Likes A Show Off

This guy tried to show-off his "strength" by trying to pick the girl up from behind princess-carry style. She wasn't expecting it and he only picked up her legs without supporting her head causing her to hit her head hard on the tile floor. Whole room went silent. I think she got a concussion from that.



16. Compassion Took a Powder

There were these 2 little old ladies that lived in my neighborhood, sisters, I think they were from Russia. As they got older, one of them got a bit of dementia. I was in the bank, and she comes in and has no idea where she is and I can't remember now what she was saying but they just kicked her out because she was very confused and being a bit disruptive. So there I am sitting in the bank crying. I just felt so bad because I knew they didn't have any other family to take care of them.


17. Innocents Abide

My Mom used to be a middle school teacher and at the end of every year the 8th graders got to go on a trip to Hershey Park (an amusement park in Pennsylvania). The kids would have to bring their own money to get something to eat halfway through the bus ride. She was chaperoning and saw everybody eating happily other than this one kid who was eating out of the condiments bar. He was eating pickles, mustard and ketchup and nobody was helping him or giving him money. Finally, my mom stepped in and got him something to eat. The worst part is he didn't forget money, his parents didn't have any to give him.


18. Death Stalks Alone

I was working at a book store and an elderly couple came in one afternoon. The man sat in one of the chairs reading while the woman browsed the gardening book section. I went in the back to unpack some boxes for a while when I started to notice some commotion and walked out to see EMTs working on the man on the floor. It was soon clear to me that he was dead and his wife was crying. She took a small bible out of her purse and placed it by his hand.


19. Children Are Not Disposable

I was eating in a Mexican restaurant and there was a family arguing next to me. The teenage daughter was crying while her father told her that he would always put his new wife (who was sitting next to him looking smug) before her. From what I heard, the poor girl had been kicked out of her home because she wasn't getting along with her stepmom.


20. They Thought They Would See Forever Together

A female friend and I were waiting at this bus exchange a couple summers ago, trying to get home from the beach. Basically, our route was sorta out of the way, so we were there for an hour waiting for it.
We're sitting against this wall when this guy and this girl walk up to the stop smiling holding hands, looking like the perfect high school couple. I remark how nice that is to my friend, and she's like, 'naw, that girl isn't happy, you can tell by her smile, something's bugging her.' And almost on cue, the girl looks down at her feet and says something really quiet and the guy immediately zones out into traffic. Uh oh. He mumbles something, and they had a good minute of silence. Then she looks at him super sad, and then they had a closure hug, expressing the harsh finality of it I guess.

Then, as they separated, his hand slowly left her arm, and she got on the bus. He turned in our direction, walking down the street, head down, with one of the most pained looks I've seen in my life. Not like, open grief that people who have someone in their life die, but the dude looked numb, like an empty husk or something. Meanwhile, the girl turns back as she's boarding the bus, with this expression of regret and sadness, and continues staring at him as the bus drives past him.

So after watching this in silent awe, I turned to my friend and said, 'Did we just watch a real world movie breakup?' Like, 5 minutes later our bus gets there, and as we're driving down the road, we see the same kid again, wiping away tears.



21. At Least Simon Cowell Wasn't There

At a school talent show, a young woman who was very shy had managed to get up the courage to sing a song. I can't remember the song, but it was a big one. She didn't have the voice for it, and she lost the audience about 20 seconds in, whilst people started laughing and shouting things. They closed the curtain on her in the middle of her performance.


22. Darned Onions Make Me Cry

My husband's grandmother had just been placed in a nursing home around the time I'd first met her. One day when we went with his parents to visit her, I was doing the awkward linger back not knowing where to be or what to say when a super old lady looks me dead in the eye and says 'I just want to go home.' Her voice was tiny and her soul sounded so tired. I feel like part of me died that afternoon because all I could offer her was a shock-induced pursed lips smile. Those onions catch up with me every now and again.



23. When Does the Boy Become the Man?

I was riding the commuter rail home from work one night. It was pretty late, so the train was less crowded and I could hear people speaking at the other end of the car. What looked to be a husband, wife and 4 or 5 children (all younger than 12) were sitting down with the dad talking to the fare collector. On this train, passengers have the option to pay in cash aboard the train. Well, it turns out this family did not have enough cash to pay for all of the tickets. The father gets into some sort of heated discussion with the fare collector and the fare collector moves on to the next car. As soon as he leaves, the father starts ripping into one of his sons (who couldn't have been more than 10) for not making sure they had enough money for the tickets. Like he expected this kid to research ticket prices and make sure his parent had enough money. Truly ridiculous.


24. No Frequent Flier Miles for Her

Years ago, LONG before 9/11, I was at Sea-Tac airport waiting on a flight. At the gate across the way a lady was dragging her kid (6-7-ish) to the gate. They were the last ones to board. The kid was screaming at the top of his lungs 'I don't wanna go, I don't wanna go, I don't wanna go.'

I could hear him screaming all the way down the jetway. About 5 minutes later she comes out of the plane, still with the boy. I assumed the captain booted them off the flight. She was now the one crying and screaming at the kid 'I hate you, I hate you.' You feel bad for her, but at the same time, it was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.



25. The Cult Sure to Shock

I worked in a lumber yard a long time ago. This man came in with his son and the kid had ratty clothes on, looked like his dad just made him work all the time. The kid was about 10 years old. The kids shoes had holes in them and he just wasn't looking like he was well taken care of.

The radio was on and it was near Christmas and the kid asked about Santa because there was Christmas music on, The dad turns to the kid and says 'I f---ing killed Santa Claus, so don't worry about it.' The kid at that point looked like he had taken all he could and started crying and his dad told him not to cry like a woman and made him keep helping him load his truck, the father asked me not to help load anything because his son needed 'to learn to be a man.



26. She Singled Out a Mistake as a Target for Abuse

When I was 14, I was in McDonalds. It wasn't busy, and there was a mother with three boys (7-9 years old-ish). As they finished their food they asked if they could go play in the ball pit/play area, and she said yes. Excited, they got up, and the blond boy spilled his soda. She flipped on him, made him clean it up while the other kids played, then made him sit at the table while she stuffed her face and yelled at him. 'You are so irresponsible, you are such a bad kid! You are lucky you even got McDonalds, you're lucky I'm even taking care of you. No wonder your parents didn't want you! This is why you don't have a mom and dad! You are so stupid! You are SO lucky I don't take you back where you came from, because NOBODY else in their right mind would foster you!'

All the while the kid quietly wept and watched his 'brothers' have the time of their lives in the other room.

To this day I regret not screaming at her, or at least saying something to the boy, if for nothing else so he wouldn't feel so alone in this world.

I still wonder about him from time to time.


27. Arrested Development

I once saw a couple in their 40s or so walk out of a Kmart who were arguing about something. They sat down on a bench outside and continued to argue. After a few minutes, this old crippled woman hobbled out of the store with a couple small grocery bags. She looked so weak, moving only a few inches with each step and barely able to lift her head. The couple got up, started walking with her. It became clear that the couple was actually brother and sister, and the old lady was their mother. They kept arguing saying things like, 'I'm tellin' Ma!' and 'Ma, she hit me!' like children. The old woman didn't even have the energy to respond to them. I felt so bad for her. It looked like she'd been raising the same six year olds for the past forty years never getting a break.



28. Even Looney Tunes Cartoons Aren't Always This Animated

Guy out with his girlfriend bumped into a female friend, gave her a hug, his GF flipped out and dumped him on the spot... The guy looked devastated. His female friend didn't know what to do.


29. Her History Doesn't Have to Repeat Itself in Her Son

I used to work in the kid's department of a bookstore and a very young mother came in with her son. The son wanted her to read him a book and she couldn't--- she was practically illiterate. She could just about manage a few words here and there like 'cat,' 'the' and 'moon' but apart from that, she was really struggling. It made me feel really depressed. And it still does whenever I think of it.


30. Man's Best Friend

It was just another Sunday, and my roommate and I walked to the local McDonalds to get some cheap chicken nuggets for dinner since we hadn't eaten all day. We waited in line for a little while, ordered, and stood off to the side to wait.

The way the registers were set up, being off to the side, my roommate and I could clearly see the drive-thru window, but we weren't paying any attention until we heard the employee yell something along the lines of "What are you doing to your dog?!" Obviously, this catches our attention and we look out past her. The vehicle in the drive-thru was a newer SUV, and in the driver side window, a small dog was being choked by the window being rolled up on his neck. The dog was no more than a few months old. Probably a Grey Hound puppy. The driver started yelling, saying her window is malfunctioning, and in a matter of 30 seconds this poor dog is being choked by this window so intensely that his mouth is being forced to stay wide open. The manager and window employee are both trying to break the car window with a shoe when I decided I had seen enough.

There were at least 10 other people watching and no one was doing anything. The manager was an older lady, and the other employee/driver were younger women, and they just weren't strong enough to break the window. I couldn't just watch anymore. I sprinted out to the drive thru and my roommate followed. At this point, the manager was outside trying to break the window with a metal bar she found inside the store. In the panic and confusion, the manager OPENED the car door to keep the driver safe from shattering glass but no one was supporting this poor dog, who was literally hanging by his neck with nothing to stand on. So I grabbed the metal pipe from her and smashed the car window as fast as I could. My roommate caught the unconscious dog, who's tongue was lifelessly hanging out the side of its mouth. We took the dog to the grass next to the car and the manager started to try and do CPR on it. He started to breathe but it was very labored and sporadic, and it never opened its eyes.

After about 10 minutes we brought the dog to the woman's car so she could take him to the emergency vet. When she opened the door, there was another greyhound puppy, obviously his sibling, sitting in the car waiting. We laid the puppy down and the sister immediately started to nudge him with her nose and eventually just laid next to him. The difference in the way they looked was disturbing and very obvious, the boy just didn't have anything left in him, it was like he was a stuffed animal.

Even though he was breathing when they left, I was pretty sure he wasn't going to make it. The manager and employee were both crying when we walked back inside. They gave us hugs and said thank you, but I didn't feel like we had done anything to make a difference. All of this happened in about 15 minutes, but it felt like we were there for hours. I called the emergency vet about an hour later. At first, they didn't want to tell me what happened, but once I explained that I was the person who tried to save him, she told me. He had passed away long before they even arrived at the vet, his trachea had been crushed.

I remember the look on that dog's face, as the window choked him harder and harder, the helplessness is his eyes, and the sister who understood what was wrong were some of the most disturbing and sad things I've ever seen in my life. The image of that poor puppy will stick with me forever.


Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?

You're not the only one.

u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?

Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.

I Know What I Like


My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.

The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.

- AardvarkAndy

A Stair Step

My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.

- RazerWolf04

My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.

- Apples9308


My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.

We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.

- FormalMango


I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.

My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.

- dontcryformegiratina


With an ex:

"I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."

She did not understand this.

I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.

"Now how much do you have in your hand?"

She still didn't understand.

She somehow has a college degree.

- Speedly

Mini Wheats

When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.

- shicole3



I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.

- CorrectionalChard

That's Unfair

My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.

His answer was that I was being unfair.

- ShyAcorn

Pure Masochism

How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."

To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.

- argofire

Emailing NASA

A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.

- derawin07

A Non-Standard Ruler? 

I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.

Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.

7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.

Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.

Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.

- Lovelocke

This Unusual Vegan Argument

Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.

He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.

That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."

Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.

Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.

- onlytruebertos

Monty Python

In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.

It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.

- Skrivus

Albert or Arnold


Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?

- Gerrard1995

Below Sea Level

I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.

I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.

This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.

- -justforclout-


Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.

Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.

An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.

I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.

- TK-DuVeraun

Whales Are Mammals

I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.

- kawaii_psycho451


Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.

- sun_phobic

Shower Schedule

My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.

- LibrarianGovernment

No Balloons For Grandma

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.

He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.

He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.

- Dskee02

Spontaneous Dolphin Existence


How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.

- thebeststory

Male Chickens

I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.

- bee_zah

Lightning McQueen

Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.

- 23071115

But ... Ice Floats

Waiter/Host here.

Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.

Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.

- FarWoods

Time Zones Exist

Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.

- JustARegularToaster


My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?"

"that's orange"

"no, it's red"



It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.

- droneb2hive

Andre 2000?


I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)

The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.

The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.

It was stupid.

- P1ST0L_Wh1PP3D

Stars Like Our Sun

I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.


Richard Nixon

I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.

I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.

Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.


Balloon to Heaven

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.

And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.


Binder Clips

I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.

He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.

It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.



Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".

My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.




3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.

I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.


Lingerie Boxes

Late to the party, but there it is.

I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.

Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.


Wicked Witch of the West

I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.

I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.


Keep Your Hands to Yourself

Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.

They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.

So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.



My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.

I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.

We didn't speak to each other for four days.



How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).

How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.


Dogs and Chocolate


I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.

I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.


Is water wet?

My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.

For the record, it is no to both questions.


Mission Trip

A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.

He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.


Dragon Tales

One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.

It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.


Green Or Yellow?

When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.

Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.


Stars In Their Multitude


I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".

I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.



My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".

It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.


Hot Water

About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.

She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.

We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.


Biology Class

I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"

I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.

I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...


Solid Or Liquid?

Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.

For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.