People Share The Time They Genuinely Changed Their Ethical View On Something.

One thing about beliefs, and not a lot of people consider this, is that you're free to change them based on your experiences. It might be tough, but it's always good to reflect on your beliefs, rather than just assume they're correct.

Here are seventeen people who changed their moral point of view.

Many thanks to the Redditor who posed this question. You can check out ore answers from the source at the end of this article!

1/17. I realized that as an atheist I should shut up and let people be religious if they want to.


2/17. I used to genuinely be a racist. I am from England and there is quite a common view here that Muslims are all evil terrorists and they are nothing but a disease in this country.

I used to share this same view. 80% of the people I know hate Muslims. All Muslims. It wasn't until a few weeks ago when a man beheaded a British soldier in the street that my view changed.

You cannot hold an entire group of people accountable for one person's action.

I ended up unfriending anyone who posted a racist status and got into a load of heated arguments. I lost my job because even my boss held the view that all Muslims are evil and they should all be killed. We got into a heated discussion and I told him that I didn't want to work for a racist. I've never felt so strongly about anything in my life, but I feel that my opinion change is for the better, considering how ignorant I used to be.


3/17. Used to do Tarot readings for people, half serious, half for giggles. Until one day a woman came to me asking for advice on "a tough decision". I laid the cards and worked my routine. She broke up in tears after I told her either decision would have negative consequences. Then she told me about her dilemma, her kid with cancer and whether she should go through with a treatment which was equally killing her kid.

I asked her what she was doing and why she would turn to something as silly as tarot cards to tell her what would be best for her kid. I stopped doing tarot and abhore every paranormal method since that people use for whatever means.... Forget that...


4/17. I used to be pretty apathetic toward the working poor. I grew up in an area where the vast majority of people were living below the poverty line, and my family lived right on the edge. A ton of people were living purely on government assistance. (continued...)

In my mind, if you didn't want to barely get by on low wages and be respected then you should have gone to school, gotten a professional degree of some nature, and entered into a gainful field of employment. I worked construction during high school, and did not feel anything resembling sympathy for grown men trying to support a family on $10 an hour. It seemed fairly simple. But that's before I started studying economics.

As a hypothetical, let's assume that everyone in the entire nation decided that they were going to try to gain status in one of the traditional "learned" white collar professions, i.e., lawyer (what I am), doctor, or professor. If everyone did this and pushed after it as hard as possible to get to where they were making that six figure salary society would literally cease to function. Society cannot function without people working in blue collar jobs. There would be no sanitation, no construction, no transportation; our whole infrastructure would collapse.

This realization has made me feel that these people are incredibly undercompensated and disrespected in most of the country. The argument that "well, if you wanted to get paid you should have been a doctor/lawyer/whatever" utterly ignores the reality of a society that leans on each other for support.

Furthermore, why pressure people into jobs they don't want? If a teenager says to their guidance counselor that they want to be a garbageman they are likely to get an earful about aiming higher. Why? It's sort of ridiculous considering how much we depend on these folks to make our country worth living in.


5/17. Throughout my childhood, until I was about 17, I was a Christian. I was all about the JC. Then I took a Philosophy class during my A-levels and I realised how poorly thought-through my beliefs were, and that I'd just accepted this religion without much thought.

I then became very anti-religion, and was pretty douchey about it for a while.

Now I'm 23, still an atheist, but you know what? I don't care if people are religious or not because its none of my business.


6/17. At 32 I decided to no longer hate the Turks. I'm greek and my family was run off their land by the Turks in the 30s, but Turkish people I meet today had nothing to do with that and I just couldn't justify the hate in my mind anymore.


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7/17. For me it was the death penalty. I am former military, and it always just seemed like justice served. But there is a difference between killing someone who is trying to kill you back, or shooting an intruder in your home, and a death sentence carried out months or years after the commission of the original crime.

The more I looked at it, the more macabre it seemed.


8/17. I used to think I would never get married. I didn't need a piece of paper from the government saying that I was committed to someone. It was an idealist view. But we don't live in an ideal world. We live in the real world. In the real world I want to be able to put my significant other on my health insurance.

If I'm in the hospital, I don't want him to not be able to see me because he isn't family. If I die before him, I want his standing as my husband to not be contested by my family. I want these protections. It's all well and good to want the government out of marriage, but that's just not how the world is right now.


9/17. I constantly check my moral / ethical compass. I don't know enough about anything to be satisfied that I am ever going to always be right.


10/17. Nuclear power. My parents are ex-hippies (well, I guess technically they're still hippies), and were vehemently anti-nuclear, attending various festivals, protests and demonstrations and actually being a part of having a planned power station not be built (there's actually a wind farm on that site now). I spent my whole life thinking nuclear power was dirty and dangerous and living in fear of a nuclear power plant accident.

I now realise that as long as the plant is properly designed and not manned by irresponsible people, and not built in an area of high tectonic/tsunami activity (seriously, don't do this), its probably the safest, cleanest form of power and something we really need, although I'm still a huge believer in so-called "alternative" energy sources such as wind or solar.

Now I just think we should shut down all the coal/oil-fired power plants. My parents agree with me too.


11/17. I used to think that if you were going to be receiving state aid and Medicaid, that you should have to submit to a drug test. I was arguing with this girl online about it and she completely decimated every point I tried to make. (continued...)

Since our flamewar, I've done a lot of reading on the subject. Turns out that it doesn't save any taxpayer money, the poor have a much lower instance of drug use overall, and it's hard to detect the #1 drug of choice, prescriptions. Not to mention that whole trampling on the 4th amendment thing.


12/17. I was really anti-homosexuality. I mean really. It disgusted me, I had no respect for them at all.

Then my brother came out to me. All of a sudden I had to realize that this person I loved wasn't another person just because he liked the company of other gentlemen. It was still my brother, and I love him to pieces.


13/17. Before my daughter was born, I wanted nothing to do with her. I had always told myself that if I had a child, I would not walk out on him/her. I knew what I was doing was wrong, but at the time I just didn't care, I was pretty ignorant.

About 4 months into her pregnancy, I started reevaluating things. I asked myself just what I was doing and if I really wanted to end up like my father (he walked out on me -and I swore I'd never be like him) and my father is a pretty big jerk. I also started to think of all the moments I was hurt by him and that's when it really hit me. "Do I want that for my child? Does he/she deserve that?"

For the first time in my life I was GLAD to say that I was wrong. My daughter is the best thing to happen to me. she's helped change me as a person beyond belief. I am forever grateful for her.


14/17. I used to be 100% career driven - a "climber" so to speak. All I wanted to do was get up that ladder, so when I went off to college, I set out to give myself the best chance of that possible. Made connections, gained people's trust, worked my butt off, etc. And it was working.

Opportunities to get real-world experience started cropping up via professors and other acquaintances, and it was pretty good. Then I joined a service organization on campus, and everything changed. I met many people with different lives, and I realized that there is so much more to life than a career. (continued...)

I met homeless people who had lived more fulfilled lives than I ever hoped to, and I met children with more love, laughter and happiness in their future than I would have gotten. I've now realized that strict planning is worthless because you don't know what life is going to offer. So I take it as it comes, rather than sprinting through it at the fastest pace.


15/17. I used to think that all drug addicts were degenerate lowlifes. I remember I used to shudder at the sight of them hunched in an alley on my way to school. To me, they were scumbags who couldn't control themselves.

This changed a few years ago after I read something online that put me in a giving mood. I decided to buy a sandwich from my favorite deli and give it to one of the guys in the alley. There was only one guy there at the time, a 40 something man. I had passed by him several times but always without interaction, so delivering the sandwich was admittedly a bit awkward at first.

Then we sat down on some milk crates and ate our lunch. His name was Hank, and he was impossibly charismatic. He told me things hadn't always been this bad. He used to be an industrial engineer that worked at the airport outside the city. He lost his wife to leukemia and couldn't deal with the pain, so he turned to heroin to cope.

I realized at that moment something that Russell Brand recently articulated very beautifully in an article he wrote: for Hank and presumably many others, drugs are not the problem. Life is the problem, and drugs are his solution." That's what's wrong with him. He is not a scumbag. He is a man so hurt that he constantly sedates himself to escape from his reality, if just for a moment.


16/17. Universal Healthcare. I used to believe that it was every Americans responsibility to take care of themselves. I still believe that, very strongly, however I now believe that there are some things a modern progressive society should provide it's citizens, and I believe basic healthcare is one of those things.


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17/17. Vegetarianism. I thought that people were stupid not to eat meat. We are the strongest, we can eat weaker species, there is nothing wrong with that. I am now more aware of vegetarians' concerns, and I don't judge them anymore.



I've been struggling through an issue for the past several years, and still can't bring my brain cells to consensus. I'm pretty liberal in most things, but I'm struggling with gun control.

I, personally, don't like guns. I'm not a fan of the "gun culture" (and am well-aware that I'm using a far too sweeping generalization, there), and I think we are far too violent. But I also agree that, for the majority of people who use guns in a destructive manner, gun laws/control won't do a damn thing. It's just one (or more) law(s) that they'll be more than willing to break.

I also believe that guns as self defense is just not a very workable idea. I remember a few years back, after the Va Tech shootings, 20/20 did a trial where they had a classroom full of trained and armed policemen, and how they reacted to a gunman entering the class.

They overwhelmingly failed, and killed far more "civilians" than were originally killed (iirc). I also keep in mind they swath of morons who I know who use the self defense argument, and I'd not trust them to defend me, armed or unarmed, for anything. So I struggle.

I want less guns, not more. I want solutions based on psychology, brains, and rational thought rather than brute force. But I don't want to penalize those people who love their guns, and use them safely, when criminals will have guns, regardless.


Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?

You're not the only one.

u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?

Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.

I Know What I Like


My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.

The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.

- AardvarkAndy

A Stair Step

My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.

- RazerWolf04

My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.

- Apples9308


My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.

We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.

- FormalMango


I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.

My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.

- dontcryformegiratina


With an ex:

"I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."

She did not understand this.

I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.

"Now how much do you have in your hand?"

She still didn't understand.

She somehow has a college degree.

- Speedly

Mini Wheats

When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.

- shicole3



I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.

- CorrectionalChard

That's Unfair

My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.

His answer was that I was being unfair.

- ShyAcorn

Pure Masochism

How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."

To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.

- argofire

Emailing NASA

A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.

- derawin07

A Non-Standard Ruler? 

I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.

Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.

7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.

Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.

Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.

- Lovelocke

This Unusual Vegan Argument

Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.

He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.

That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."

Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.

Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.

- onlytruebertos

Monty Python

In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.

It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.

- Skrivus

Albert or Arnold


Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?

- Gerrard1995

Below Sea Level

I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.

I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.

This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.

- -justforclout-


Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.

Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.

An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.

I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.

- TK-DuVeraun

Whales Are Mammals

I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.

- kawaii_psycho451


Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.

- sun_phobic

Shower Schedule

My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.

- LibrarianGovernment

No Balloons For Grandma

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.

He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.

He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.

- Dskee02

Spontaneous Dolphin Existence


How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.

- thebeststory

Male Chickens

I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.

- bee_zah

Lightning McQueen

Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.

- 23071115

But ... Ice Floats

Waiter/Host here.

Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.

Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.

- FarWoods

Time Zones Exist

Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.

- JustARegularToaster


My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?"

"that's orange"

"no, it's red"



It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.

- droneb2hive

Andre 2000?


I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)

The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.

The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.

It was stupid.

- P1ST0L_Wh1PP3D

Stars Like Our Sun

I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.


Richard Nixon

I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.

I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.

Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.


Balloon to Heaven

My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.

And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.


Binder Clips

I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.

He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.

It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.



Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".

My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.




3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.

I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.


Lingerie Boxes

Late to the party, but there it is.

I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.

Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.


Wicked Witch of the West

I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.

I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.


Keep Your Hands to Yourself

Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.

They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.

So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.



My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.

I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.

We didn't speak to each other for four days.



How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).

How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.

Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.


Dogs and Chocolate


I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.

I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.


Is water wet?

My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.

For the record, it is no to both questions.


Mission Trip

A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.

He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.


Dragon Tales

One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.

It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.


Green Or Yellow?

When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.

Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.


Stars In Their Multitude


I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".

I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.



My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

"Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".

It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.


Hot Water

About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.

She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.

We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.


Biology Class

I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"

I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.

I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...


Solid Or Liquid?

Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.

For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.