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Seasoned Fathers Share Their Best Advice For First Time New Dads

Where is my parenting instruction manual?

Parenting is like, the hardest thing that has ever existed. Even worse, there is literally no right way to parent (though there are definitely several wrong ways) and every kid is different, leading to an intense feeling of "wtf am I doing."

In order to curb that feeling, u/GiggaWat asked Reddit:

Dads of reddit, what is your advice for new dads?

Here are some of those pieces of advice.

Not A Creature Was Stirring

Do NOT have it dead silent in your home when your child is asleep. Do your normal routine or noise level or you end up with a child who is easily woken up by a mouse fart.

Love And Care

  1. Don't worry if the kid doesn't respond to you for the first few weeks/months. It usually takes longer than bonding with the mom. It will happen I promise
  2. Just like previously posted.... everything is a phase and it will pass. Goes for the good and bad. Enjoy those late nights somehow because soon you will wish they did call for you and you could come to the rescue.
  3. My wife has to remind me all the time, they are babies and they don't know better. Remember this when you inevitably get frustrated with them. It's not personal
  4. Figure out something that you and only you do to help out. Mine was bath time. I gave my daughter every bath/shower except maybe 3 until she was 2 years old. Also always did morning bottle feeds. I liked being the first thing she sees in the morning.
  5. When buying things. Function>Form
  6. Take lots of video and pictures. Can never have too many and can never get them back if you don't.
  7. Try not to take your kid out to be handled in public unless necessary before 3 months. If they get sick and you go to the ER with a high fever because their immune system can't handle the world yet, they will do a spinal tap and it will break your heart putting them in that much pain.
  8. Ask questions, who cares if you feel dumb for asking. We have all done it and it's better to be safe than sorry.
  9. Why Am I Crying?

    Hungry

    Tired

    Nappy

    Want to suck on something

    Bored

    Scared

    It's probably one of them.

    It's A Hard Journey

    I've got a 4 and a 5 year old. Here are my bits of advice...

    • Depending on your work schedule try and be there for the night feeds. My wife struggled staying awake to feed, so it was helpful for me to stay up, watch TV and talk to help keep her from falling asleep with baby in arms
    • Help out and be as hands on as you can
    • Try to keep your cool and don't lose your temper (this can be hard with sleep deprivation!)
    • Your wife/partner will most likely be absolutely f-cked. Try and give her regular breaks by taking baby for a walk or to the shops. This is good baby bonding time for you too
    • Babies need constant attention which can be draining on both you and your relationship. It's important to remain a team and talk as much as you can. If you have family or friends that can have baby for a little while, it's good to have a bit of alone time together.
    • Remember that everything is not permanent and things come in phases. The being woken up in the middle of the night, being pissed all over, changing 15 nappies a day, not having a moment to yourself. Things may seem hard right now, but don't stress over it to much, it's all a phase.
    • Hope this helps!

      Hit Ze Gym

      Get in shape now. You'll be carrying a lot more stuff and will be chasing you kid around soon enough.

      Practice What You Preach

      The biggest thing I've probably learned from being a step-dad is if you want them to clean their room, you have to keep your room clean too. I mean that metaphorically too. You have to be a role model for the behaviors you want them to have.

      Days Are Long But Years Are Short

      The micro goes by very slowly. The macro is like light speed.

      Motion Of The Ocean

      Cannot stress this enough. wipe front to back. And get some baby tenderparts cream(i forget what it is called), that way you won't have to wake as much. And more importantly the baby will feel better.

      Sharing Responsibility

      Take over the mental load from your partner.

      It's invisible work that goes unnoticed - the knowing what is coming, what jabs and immunisations there needs to be, what appointments are going to be happening, what needs to be prepared and ready every day.

      You can do the chores, and that stuff will get visually noticed by everyone and it'll feel good and is definitely helpful. But if you're not involved in the thinking and planning side of things then it will just be a drain on your partner.

      So make sure that there are enough clean clothes for everyone, that bags are packed and ready for leaving the house, that spare changes of clothing are ready - your partner and child will love you for it cos everything will run far smoother.

      Other than that, at least half the night waking where possible and whatever it takes to get through the day without crying.

      Fall Down Tired

      A little advice I learned from an Army Ranger: never stand when you can lean, never lean when you can sit, never sit when you can lie down, never lie down when you can nap.

      Growing Pains

      Spend as much time as you can with your kids. They grow up so fast.

      Multiple Roles

      Don't forget to still be a good husband, as well as good dad.

      Always Learning

      A few years down the road when they are older, they will challenge you. Allow them to be a vehicle of self reflection and change for you. Why are you saying no? What are your preconceived ideas about parenting; about discipline; about life? My two girls made me do so much self reflection while they were growing up. I learned so much about myself through their presence in my life.

      Always Stay Calm

      I can give you a couple pieces of advice that I have used from day one, and I have an amazing relationship with my son now.

      1. Try teach your child as much as possible from as young as you can. They will ask a million questions because everything is brand new and interesting to them. So many parents I've seen just ignore kids or tell them to be quiet when they feel like they keep asking questions, but they are missing out on so many teachable moments! Everything you do is something they can learn. If you go outside with them and you see a cool bug, Google it and explain what it is. When you are cooking, let them follow the recipe with you and see how it's done. When it's time to shave, let them watch. All of this will leave a massive impression on them, and will lead to so many good memories later.
      2. Be understanding. Your kid is a brand new, blank slate driven by emotions. You can teach them as well as you can, but they are still their own unique person. They will make mistakes, argue, get upset, throw tantrums, and frustrate you. Instead of getting angry and reacting with it, stay calm and try to figure out where the behavior is coming from. Wether it's hunger, fatigue, too much TV time, not enough attention, or significant life changes, there is almost always a reason for behavior issues. You will get better results with your little one if you talk about what's wrong and help them through it than you will by yelling at them, or punishing them to make them stop. You will also build a foundation of trust that will make it easier to communicate honestly as they get older as well.
      3. Bonds

        Don't freak out if you don't initially bond with the kid right away. It's often not instantaneous for men ...it took about 2 weeks for me to start bonding, and from there they became my everything.

        It's Not About You

        I don't care if you're tired or having a sh-tty day. Read with your child.

        Hugs: Always Welcome

        Just hug them. There's never a wrong time.

        Save Some Money, Save Your Sanity

        Don't panic.

        Also, never buy new clothes and toys for babies. Shop at consignment sales.

        Worry Tree

        Get a worry tree. What's that you ask? It's from a story someone told me a long time ago (I don't believe anyone knows the origin).

        A handyman I hired to help me do some work around the house had a rough day. He'd gotten a flat on the way over to the house, a power tool stopped working, and he couldn't get his truck started at quitting time. I offered to drive him home, and he sat in taciturn silence the whole drive.

        When we got to his house he gruffly invited me in to meet his family. Halfway up the sidewalk he stopped at a small tree, touching different branches here and there. Then he took a deep breath, finished the walk up to the house and opened the front door. Suddenly, he was a different person; he was all smiles as he hugged his two small children and gave his wife a kiss.

        He introduced me, and I enjoyed meeting his wife and kids. As we walked back to my car past the tree, my curiosity kicked in. I asked about tree-touching ceremony.

        He said, "That's my worry tree. I know sometimes I'm gonna have bad days, but my worries are mine, not my family's. So every night when I come home and walk past that tree I just hang my worries on it instead of taking them in the house with me. Then in the morning I pick them up again."

        "Most times," he smiled, "when I go to pick 'em up in the morning there ain't as many hangin' there as I remember from the night before."

        Take A Back Seat

        Don't presume that you're going to 'create' your child's personality; that sh-t comes factory-installed!

        Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?

        You're not the only one.

        u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?

        Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.

        I Know What I Like

        Giphy

        My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.

        The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.

        - AardvarkAndy

        A Stair Step

        My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.

        - RazerWolf04

        My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.

        - Apples9308

        Saturdays

        My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.

        We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.

        - FormalMango

        Iraq

        I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.

        My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.

        - dontcryformegiratina

        $40

        With an ex:

        "I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."

        She did not understand this.

        I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.

        "Now how much do you have in your hand?"

        She still didn't understand.

        She somehow has a college degree.

        - Speedly

        Mini Wheats

        When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.

        - shicole3

        Crayons

        Giphy

        I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.

        - CorrectionalChard

        That's Unfair

        My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.

        His answer was that I was being unfair.

        - ShyAcorn

        Pure Masochism

        How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."

        To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.

        - argofire

        Emailing NASA

        A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.

        - derawin07

        A Non-Standard Ruler? 

        I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.

        Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.

        7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.

        Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.

        Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.

        - Lovelocke

        This Unusual Vegan Argument

        Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.

        He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.

        That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."

        Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.

        Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.

        - onlytruebertos

        Monty Python

        In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.

        It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.

        - Skrivus

        Albert or Arnold

        Giphy

        Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?

        - Gerrard1995

        Below Sea Level

        I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.


        I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.

        This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.

        - -justforclout-

        Tomash

        Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.

        Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.


        An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.

        I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.

        - TK-DuVeraun

        Whales Are Mammals

        I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.

        - kawaii_psycho451

        Microwaves

        Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.

        - sun_phobic

        Shower Schedule

        My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.

        - LibrarianGovernment

        No Balloons For Grandma

        My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.

        He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.

        He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.

        - Dskee02

        Spontaneous Dolphin Existence

        Giphy

        How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.

        Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.

        - thebeststory

        Male Chickens

        I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.

        - bee_zah

        Lightning McQueen

        Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.

        - 23071115

        But ... Ice Floats

        Waiter/Host here.

        Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.

        Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.

        - FarWoods

        Time Zones Exist

        Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.

        - JustARegularToaster

        Colorblind

        My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

        "Hey could you hand me that red _____?"

        "that's orange"

        "no, it's red"

        "orange"

        "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW"

        It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.

        - droneb2hive

        Andre 2000?

        Giphy

        I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)


        The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.

        The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.

        It was stupid.

        - P1ST0L_Wh1PP3D

        Stars Like Our Sun

        I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.

        fox_boi2

        Richard Nixon

        I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.


        I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.

        Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.

        grumblecakes1

        Balloon to Heaven

        My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.

        And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.

        Dskee02

        Binder Clips

        I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.

        He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.

        It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.

        justantherredditgirl

        Jewish

        Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".

        My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.

        Aslkurloz

        Nutella

        Giphy

        3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.

        I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.

        vault_tec_redditor

        Lingerie Boxes

        Late to the party, but there it is.

        I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.

        Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.

        Meh75

        Wicked Witch of the West

        I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.

        I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.

        weirdatwork2017

        Keep Your Hands to Yourself

        Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.

        They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.

        So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.

        Frisby2007

        Telekinesis

        My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.

        I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.

        We didn't speak to each other for four days.

        dude_bizarro

        Ghosts

        How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).


        How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.

        Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.

        thebeststory

        Dogs and Chocolate

        Giphy

        I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.

        I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.

        KlutzyHedgehog

        Is water wet?

        My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.

        For the record, it is no to both questions.

        SFCopperhead

        Mission Trip

        A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.

        He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.

        SirRogers

        Dragon Tales

        One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.

        It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.

        MistalQueensglaive

        Green Or Yellow?

        When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.

        Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.

        BugsRatty

        Stars In Their Multitude

        Giphy

        I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".

        I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.

        theedjman

        Colorblind

        My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.

        "Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".

        It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.

        droneb2hive

        Hot Water

        About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.

        She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.

        We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.

        moniker5000

        Biology Class

        I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"

        I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.

        I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...

        10d4plus8

        Solid Or Liquid?

        Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.

        For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.

        ScreamingPotoo