Older People Reveal The Piece Of Technology They Had The Hardest Time Adapting To.
From Caller ID, to microwaves, GPS and pocket calculator, people born before the year 2000 share their most shocking moment when technology advanced.
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The fact that the cell phone had internet. I would accidentally hit "up" on my LG Chocolate or the Envy 2 and frantically hit "END" 50 times because I knew my dad would come to me saying "why are you using the internet on the phone!!!" It was strange when it became mainstream.
Honestly, the thought of having your whole teen stage of your life posted all over the Internet forever. Oh man, glad I just missed all that.
I remember seeing them in futuristic movies as a kid, and thinking 'Not any time soon.' Now, they're the norm and I still don't quite understand how.
My first iPod. I had had cassette players and toted around CD players, worrying about them skipping while I walked. Then I get this square thing that I insert nothing into and can hold more than 15 songs...
It's still one of my favorite gifts I've been given.
I still forget I have a tiny computer in my pocket with access to absolutely any information I could ever need. I still remember arguing with a kid about something in class in 11th grade and having to send someone to the library to google it.
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I was born in 1995. As a kid we were always taught to be careful about revealing any personal information online. Now it's normal to post one's entire life online for everyone to see. That's the biggest, shocking moment for me.
Streaming music services like Spotify. Holy shit would I have killed for something like the free tier of Spotify when I was a kid!
Music on the internet (probably starting with the first legal ways to get music online, like the iTunes Store) had the lovely side effect of killing the $25 CD, so that was a bonus.
When my dad got a Bell Atlantic Caller ID. It BLEW my mind. The concept of knowing and seeing the name of the person calling your house was insane.
Our first microwave. No more arguments because dad's soup wasn't hot enough? No problem! Want a warm cookie and hot chocolate? No problem. Want popcorn for a tv movie that starts in 5 minutes? No problem.
It was awesome. I wasn't allowed to use the stove when I was home alone until about age 10 but I could still have a hotdog or cocoa or leftovers before that due to the miracle box on the counter.
Bottled water, when it first started becoming popular, it amazed me that people would pay for water. Of course I was a kid and knew only that free water came magically from the faucet. This was also a time when public drinking fountains not only existed but were very common everywhere.
I hated having to print out directions from MapQuest. Miss your exit/street with MQ? Have fun figuring it out. Miss your turn with GPS? Recalculating..."
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Wifi. So the internets are just in the air? Mind blown.
More so than wifi, was the 1st generation iPhone. Steve Jobs blew my mind with things that we now take for granted. Watch as he introduces this revolutionary "iPod + phone + internet communicator" with a "really big 3.5 inch screen." He literally has to explain to the public how a touchscreen can work with your finger. At the time, it was every feature you wanted, all the features you couldn't have imagined in your wildest dreams, all in one device.
The biggest change I remember is no longer relying upon a landline to talk to your friends - first because it was the only way for a while and then because it was needed to connect to the dial-up.
I can't remember how many times I'd be forced off the phone because my dad wanted to check his email.
Born in 1966.
For me, it was the really early internet, circa '95. Had a girlfriend studying in England and telnetting and having "live" chats with her via text was amazing.
After that, witnessing HDTV for the first time ever at a high-end electronics store.
The pocket calculator was a pretty big one.
They had landed men on the moon before we had that amazing tool. If you needed to know how many times 3.4 goes into 866, you had to figure it out on paper or in your head.
Two things for me personally:
The overnight transition from dumb to smart phones
Augmented reality with games such as Pokemon Go. Not because it's technically impressive, but because at that point, I knew without ANY doubt that games had fully been embraced by the general public, like radio and TV before. AR showed me that everyone was a potential gamer. Even the Wii, which appealed to a specific brand of boomers among other populations, was not as powerful of an indicator.
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Suddenly it became so extremely easy to find out whatever you wanted. I remember when it came out there was a small report in our local newspaper treating it like some obscure niche site.
When touch screens were in everything... That was some Sci-fi stuff... We could touch the content... And move it and everything... I was genuinely amazed for months…
Specifically the original NES. Going from clunky and repetitive Atari games to those first seconds of "feeling" the speed and power of how Mario ran and jumped was like "WHOA GUYS, we got something here!" Then playstation dropped Metal Gear Solid on our heads with a single player campaign of cinematic cut scenes and everyone was like " WHOA GUYS, the characters have faces and freaking talk to me!" Loved every minute of those days.
Back in the day, if you couldn't remember an actors name, or who won the Super Bowl 4 years ago, or whatever, you had to hope to either remember it or go to a library.
Now we just pull a supercomputer out of our pocket and the lady inside answers the question for us.
When I realized I could just download any album I wanted whenever I wanted with incredible ease did it for me. That's still pretty awesome to me actually. A 45 minute album takes a month of numerous people recording and tracking and mixing and mastering and I can download all of that work in like 60 seconds.
Born in 1979 in the Netherlands. One thing that really changed life was the arrival of ATM machines and payment terminals in stores. Before that you actually had to go to the bank to get money. There were long waiting lines, especially on Fridays.
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Born in 1985, graduated high school in 2003. Honestly, YouTube was a game changer. But I think the biggest "woah!" kind of thing is the ubiquitous nature of social media. In 2003, to the extent that social media existed (MySpace hit the scene right as I got out of high school) it was not that broad in everyday life at all. And going back to my late 90s middle school years, it was nowhere. I really am curious to see how people who had social media in middle school and high school grow up to be well into their 30s and 40s.
Watching memory cards get smaller, and hold more and more data.
My first mp3 player was the size of a deck of cards, and the on-board memory was 32MB. With a SmartMedia card(LOL remember those?) it could hold up to a whopping 128MB. If I wanted it to hold more than a handful of songs, I'd have to copy and covert them down to a bitrate comparable to listening to them via shortwave radio from a different planet...
The SmartMedia cards were ridiculously expensive before they were phased out.
The Boxing Day tsunami in 2004 - I just happened to be online, and it is the first thing I remember unfolding in real time on the internet.
The first time I remember seeing loads of cell phone coverage of a disaster, watching something awful happen across the world as it was happening. And the BBC website was especially fascinating, they had set up a system similar to the way Facebook lets you check in safe during a local crisis now - but it was the first time I'd ever seen it. They offered a space for people to look for relatives, share updates and check in because the phone lines were all down. You could refresh and see people desperately trying to reach people, and accounts of survival and video interviews - every time you hit F5 something new. And the death count ticked up with each refresh.
It was just really sobering to sit there safe at my house and just... observe people's world's fall apart. It was also so different and modern compared to 9/11 coverage only a few years before.
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I remember the SMS/text message feature on my Nokia brick phone seeming stupid and unnecessary. I'm not sure I even thought it would work. It seems like it started as my buddy's texting each other as a joke and then six months later was this enormous thing.
I can think of 2 distinct moments.
The first was when I was doing my masters, and one of the profs held a meeting to demonstrate this new thing called the World Wide Web. We were of course using the Internet on a daily basis, but the web was something else altogether. At the time there were only a few dozen publicly accessible websites, but I remember thinking "Whoa! this is going to be huge," and immediately went to write my own website.
The second was when a buddy at work told me to check out a specific network drive at work. It contained hundreds of .mp3 files, an extension I had never seen before. He told me to copy what was there, and rip my own CDs and upload them to the same drive. The very first mp3 I played was Head Like a Hole, so I was introduced to file sharing and Nine Inch Nails at the same time.
When I was about 8 or 9, I had been roped into a 'late' night run to the store. My favorite show was coming on (Diff'rent Strokes) and I didn't want to miss it, I pleaded for my Dad use his 8mm camera to record it so I could watch it later. He wouldn't, I missed the show and went on with my life.
A few years later, we got a VCR and thus began my love of time-shifting and commercial skipping.
We didn't just select a show out of a line-up of shows and click on them, oh no, you had to know when it was on, manually set the on and off times (using horribly designed menus and remotes) and, IIRC, make sure the VCR was tuned to the correct channel before leaving the house.
People messing with the setup, schedule changes, programming delays, and forgetting to change or rewind the tape all resulted in this working only about half the time. Even then, it was still better than having to be in front of the set at a certain time and having to slog through the endless cavalcade of commercials.
My mom is from Belgium, and would schedule times to call home to talk to my grandma. They had to keep it brief since long distance was so pricy. I remember talking to her on the phone and it just sounded like she was in another world with the slight cracking in the line (and flanders always seemed like the shire to me.) Then there was Skype. We couldn't believe that our 80 flemish grandma was right there talking to all of us, it was like sci-fi. Now my grandma is almost 90 and they Facetime every day.
Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?
You're not the only one.
u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.
I Know What I LikeGiphy
My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.
The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.
A Stair Step
My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.
My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.
My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.
We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.
I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.
My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.
With an ex:
"I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."
She did not understand this.
I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.
"Now how much do you have in your hand?"
She still didn't understand.
She somehow has a college degree.
When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.
I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.
My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.
His answer was that I was being unfair.
How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."
To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.
A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.
A Non-Standard Ruler?
I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.
Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.
7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.
Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.
Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.
This Unusual Vegan Argument
Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.
He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.
That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."
Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.
Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.
In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.
It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.
Albert or ArnoldGiphy
Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?
Below Sea Level
I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.
I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.
This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.
Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.
Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.
An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.
I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.
Whales Are Mammals
I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.
Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.
My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.
No Balloons For Grandma
My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.
He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.
He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.
Spontaneous Dolphin ExistenceGiphy
How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.
Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.
I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.
Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.
But ... Ice Floats
Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.
Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.
Time Zones Exist
Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.
My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.
"Hey could you hand me that red _____?"
"no, it's red"
"YOU CANT EVEN KNOW"
It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.
I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)
The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.
The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.
It was stupid.
Stars Like Our Sun
I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.
I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.
I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.
Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.
Balloon to Heaven
My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.
And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.
I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.
He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.
It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.
Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".
My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.
3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.
I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.
Late to the party, but there it is.
I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.
Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.
Wicked Witch of the West
I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.
I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.
Keep Your Hands to Yourself
Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.
They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.
So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.
My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.
I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.
We didn't speak to each other for four days.
How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).
How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.
Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.
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I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.
I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.
Is water wet?
My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.
For the record, it is no to both questions.
A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.
He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.
One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.
It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.
Green Or Yellow?
When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.
Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.
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I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".
I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.
My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.
"Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".
It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.
About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.
She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.
We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.
I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"
I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.
I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...
Solid Or Liquid?
Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.
For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.