People Who Have Lived In Both Democratic Nations And Dictatorships Share How Different Their Lives Were.
Currently, 123 out of over 190 countries worldwide are democratic and 49 dictatorships. The odds are definitely in favour of democracy but is it really the better option for everyone?
People on Reddit who have lived in both a dictatorship and a democracy were asked: "What are the differences in daily life occurrences between the two?" These are some of the best answers.
I'm an American, but I've lived in Ethiopia. There was no wifi, and cell phone internet was intentionally slowed down so deep packet inspection could take place. Almost everyone I spoke to was deeply, intensely critical of the government, but only after a beer or two. One guy brought me a manifesto to my hotel talking about the government's abuses, and smuggled it inside of another bigger book that had pages ripped out. That was quite sad. Everyone walked around in a feeling of moroseness.
I lived in Myanmar for two years. That was a bit of a disaster; as soon as I saw Aung Sun Suu Kyi get elected, I thought, "Well, at least they've got a new dictator now." Several of my friends had PTSD from being imprisoned and tortured so much by the tatmadaw government. People are really exploding with their newfound freedom there; the new government only took control in 2016, and now people are posting whatever they think on Facebook all the time (amazing considering a SIM card cost $10,000 just a few years ago).
I lived in South Africa for a few months about thirteen years ago, and there was an intense simmering rage against the government there by most white people. They feel like their property and rights had been taken away and would never be given back. So many people I met couldn't get jobs because of affirmative action there (I suppose it doesn't work when affirmative action favors 90% of the population).
But how it compares with America? The biggest thing in common I saw with all of those is that people were extremely willing to complain to me, but very unwilling to talk about their problems if anyone else was around. It was kind of wild how intensely people trusted me, a complete stranger, because I was a foreigner, versus their neighbor they had known their entire life.
People in America like to complain a lot about nothing, while people in dictatorships seem to complain about things that matter.
I grew up in a dictatorship. Religion was illegal. The dictator was a god. People kept a portrait of the dictator at home and basically worshiped it. No one was starving, but let's just say there were no overweight people. You could only buy so much food. Food rations existed. We were poor. Like poor poor, not first world poor.
No balls for kids to play with. Gramps would make cloth balls for us to play with. Basically no toys. Most families had a TV. There was 1 channel and 2-3 hours of programming per day except for Sunday. We got 6 hours of TV on Sundays. People were brainwashed. Actually brainwashed. Go to YouTube and find testimonials from North Korean defectors. It was almost the same. But North Korea looks much richer than we were.
I lived in Libya as a child and being young and ignorant if anything it was more fun over there. Candy and other store goods were dirt cheap, everyone was friendly with each other and housing was subsidized so my family lived in comfortable homes.
It's really the stuff you learn about later that makes you understand why your parents left and why people would be afraid to talk about the executions and Gaddafi. I would hear adults chit chat from time to time about his wrongdoings, but I never really understood with all the statues and monuments displaying his glory.
The state of things over there now is much worse considering it is basically total anarchy, but it's the cost of freedom and the injustices that were occurring mixed with the stifling of opinions was just too much for the people to stay quiet.
I lived in China for four years. I remember one day I went to get a coffee at Starbucks and while I was waiting for my coffee I was reading through an article in People's Daily, an English-language state-run newspaper. There was an article about how the government was making changes to the history textbook to be used in public schools. There was a quote from an official which went something along the lines of "It is of the utmost importance that the next generation of Chinese be brought up with the 'correct' interpretation of history."
I never forgot that quote. It totally underscores how in China you have no right to make your own interpretation, to have your view on events. In China, there is the party line, and then there is everything else. Dogma and blasphemy.
I will qualify that by saying that I did travel to North Korea in April of last year. When I got back to Beijing after 3 days, China felt like a free country by comparison. The example I will give is the internet, which is excruciatingly slow and heavily censored. After the smog, the internet is what all expats gripe about most. However, after 3 days in Pyongyang, I was simply happy to be back in a country that had any internet at all, censored or not.
Honestly, not that much different for day to day things, but they really show when you get back to a free country. I had it in my head for months that I couldn't use certain websites without a proxy or watch TV, because it was all CCTV XX and who the hell actually watches one of like 7527 CCTV Channels in China. Also the police in dictatorships are usually very corrupt, with far too much/too little power. In Vietnam, for example, our passports got confiscated for being foreigners for the whole trip, while in China you had to pay your local cops if they caught you having a satellite dish for the wrong reason or wearing the wrong clothes sometimes, but really? They don't care unless some political officer is on the best with them. Like Soviet soldiers and NKVD commissars.
Really it isn't that bad. Apart from the little inconveniences, shortages, and lack of freedom, it isn't the end of the world. Unless you're in a national political camp for selling stuff to your neighbor in Yunnan. Then, well, unfortunate.
I lived in Egypt during the Mubarak era and to be honest I personally did not feel much of a difference. Yes, corruption was a bit more in your face but other then that life went on. To be fair I have to announce that my family was pro-government and so would never face the same issues as members of the Muslim brotherhood for example. But people openly attacked the government and as long as it did not erupt into protest then usually the government left you alone.
I'm not here to excuse the autocratic government and my personal experience is not the same as other Egyptians. It varied wildly in where you live. My city of Heliopolis was generally secular and religiously mixed and so more pro government not to mention we only lived a couple blocks away from the presidential palace.
Anyway growing up in Egypt I did not feel like I grew up under an oppressive regime but it did become evident during the revolution after the government was actually threatened.
By the way I spent half my time in the US and the other half in San Francisco. After being "enlightened" and educated in a very liberal college (UCSC) I do now understand that I cannot be as open with my thoughts back home but when it comes to Middle Eastern dictatorships its no where near Syria or even Gulf monarchies. Honestly I fear the more religious elements of our society more then my government.
A native of Ethiopia here. The major difference I'd say is the media. The ruling party has total control over all media and communication services, including the internet, so you're constantly fed political propaganda every day.
If protests erupt in some part of the country, it's common for the government to shut the internet down for a month or two. Corruption is rampant, inflation is ridiculously high and you see a small minority who control the government get richer. Interaction with the federal police is always a nightmare, cause if you use the wrong word or are perceived to have a 'bad' attitude things escalate pretty quickly and can get physical. And the government has fixed a minimum amount of income that a certain business should earn, so if you actually end up earning less than that amount, you get taxed for the minimum amount regardless.
I've been in the US as a graduate student for over a year now and the difference is like night and day.
I am currently living in China, which isn't a dictatorship but definitely a heavy handed government. It's really not that different day to day. People still live their lives, and especially if you're foreign you really get left alone.
The difference is in the details. You notice a lot of police officers everywhere which can be good and bad. I've never feared being attacked, mostly the officers just check drivers licenses and direct traffic. But you do notice some things, like cameras are everywhere. If you drive a car through and intersection or walk down a road your photo is taken. So in that way people may call it oppressive, but really if you do what the party wants they leave you alone.
While there are certainly negatives of having a government with such absolute authority, there are also very stark benefits. Businesses do not go unregulated for very long, and the government is just allowed to shut something down if they think it's for the public good. Ultimately there are trade offs, some good and some bad, but in terms of day to day life the only real differences are cultural.
For me, the biggest difference is how people just get used to messed up situations. People are resilient, and even in the worst situations, sometimes even unconsciously, they adapt.
I'm originally from Venezuela. What you see in the media, is mostly accurate, situation is really dire. People are dying from lack of medicine, for example, the lack of VIH antiretrovirals have been a death sentence for many.
But people get used to all that. People get used to get into a line in the supermarket just because there is a line (something must be arriving, and you should buy it even if you don't need it, you can use it for barter later). People get used to seeing abuses of authorities (government officials often play illegal wiretap records of opposition politicians in national tv, for example). People start seeing every single messed up thing as normal. Because that's the way it is and there is no way to change it, so you just try to get on with your life, and be happy with the little you have left.
With crime, it's the same. A lot of Venezuelan prisons are controlled by gangs. And by controlled, I really mean controlled, no police or military allowed. They have pools, night clubs, hookers, barbecues and family living inside, along with AK-47's and heavy artillery. This is normal. One "Pran" took a famous madman called Dorangel Vargas, a cannibal, and made him cook his enemies in the prison. There is a video from another prison where the inmates chopped other prisoners fingers and fed them to themselves while being tortured. And no one bats an eye. Because people feel like there is no reason in trying to change what you can't change.
In Chile we had a dictatorship until 1990. It's a great thing not getting tortured or killed for thinking, but beside that almost nothing change. The same people that ruled the country before does it now, but with more friends from the other side.
As an example ,Pinochet before leaving gave some of the biggest state companies to friends and family, like SQM (mining company) to his son in law. Just the last year we knew that this guy paid for all the political campaigns of almost all the political parties, even sons of politicians killed by Pinochet got illegal money from the the Pinochet's son in law and now.
Politics is a hell of a drug.
I used to live in Belarus as a child, if you consider Lukashenko a dictator. The streets are clean, buildings are well maintained and there arent too many potholes In the roads as far as I can remember, its better than some of our neighbours (eg. Ukraine).
After moving to the UK I believe that life in the West is better. There is more freedom of expression and if you criticism the government you wont be jailed. I would rather live in the UK to be honest.
I lived in China until 14 years old, and still visit China annually. China's Internet regulations are the most annoying in the world.
80%+ of all non-Chinese websites are flat out banned. If you want to start a personal blog or any website at all, you have to register with the government, otherwise the Chinese hosting service will just refuse to host your site with out the registration #.
Many popular VPN service are IP banned, it's quite difficult to find a working VPN
Any political dissidence online will be investigated by police. They knocked on my door once. Luckily I was able to just slip him a few hundred RMB and he happily went away without trouble.
Besides Internet bans, there's gun ban, gambling ban, strip club ban. Can't start your own political party, can't start your own religion neither.
When I come back to the US, I seriously can feel I'm breathing freedom.
I lived in communism, I witnessed a revolution and later on moved to USA.
In communism, even as kids, we knew not to talk bad about our dictator (we called him president). Some kids even ranted that he was the one who gave us our daily bread.
There were money, but nothing to buy with them. You order a car in advance and then wait half a year to get it. Common occurrence for people disappearing with only rumors of their sorts.
At my grandma's, she had fields of what-have-you. We worked all summer just to give it to the government so they would give our quota back from what we harvested on our lands. It was illegal to kill a calf for your own food supply, etc. Basically the government wanted to keep all of us in check at all times.
Revolution came, people died, saw people running, on TV - I saw my street with dead people, but it was over. We were happy that we are free.
Came to USA. Now I work my heart out to give IRS it's quota, hahahah. The irony! No joke, I would not go back to that, but because the oppression, people were closer to each other. Romania!
The most striking for me is the freedom of choice. I grew up in communism and basically you had only one version of food, clothes TV station. My parents were both intellectuals with good paying jobs but there was nothing to buy in the stores.
Im Indonesian, live both in Soehartos dictatorship regime and democracy period after his downfall. The main difference is the freedom of speech. While currently its not as free as US (people can still be charged because of what they say e.g blasphemy as in Jakarta governors case), back then whenever people criticize / being outspoken about anything related to Soehartos administration, they simply vanish shortly after. Some believe they wouldve been kidnapped and assassinated right after. Yet the bright side is there were substantially less criminals.
Being living in democratic environment has its downside as well, though. Seems like people have the inclination to be outspoken, yet people are still ignorant (you know, developing country) which sadly reflects the collective consciousness of Indonesia.
Left communist Vietnam at an early age. My dad's career was restricted. He was an equivalent of a MD but couldn't practice fully since our family was considered treasonous because my grandpa was chief of police for a local province working with the US military. We were forced to leave or we'd starve to death.
My dad could not work here in the US as a doctor due to his degrees not being accepted here. Had to start from scratch doing blue collar jobs.
In the end I ended up working for 2 out of the top 4 Silicon valley tech companies. Both my siblings got full rides to good universities here.
Everything was stripped from us over there, and my parents worked hard so their children could actually make the "rags to riches" dream come true. The opportunity is here in America so that if you tried hard, things could happen. Over there, trying harder means nothing since the distribution of wealth is dictated by the government.
I lived in Yugoslavia as a kid. It was Communism at that time. My family were working in a factory. We had a good life overall. Their work would pay for the whole family the summer trips to the sea, and in the winter to go skiing. With Yugoslavian passport you were allowed to go anywhere in the world, but nobody did because of free education and free healthcare.
Crime was unheard of, because government would make them simply disappear. Life was dull. People were bored. It's like having a big brother watching you all the time. People from Eastern Europe really miss Yugoslavia now, and realize that the "democracy and freedom" is not what it said in the pamphlet. There's really rich and really poor now.
Venezuelan here. Right now I'm living in Panama so I have an idea of what's the difference.
I moved to Panama about 2 years ago, and immediately saw the difference. The people lived way different than how we live in Venezuela, mainly because of insecurity. As some of you may know, Caracas, the capital of Venezuela is the most dangerous city in the world. Last time I read about it we had more homicides than a country in war.
Here I see people walking in the streets normally, even using their phones! Which in Venezuela is impossible unless you want to get robbed or killed.
Also, in Panama people actually believe in their election process. They go vote and actually they can win, something that in Venezuela just doesn't happens because the "government" has all the elections rigged.
Some of this material has been edited for clarity.
Have you ever found yourself in an argument so stupid and/or pointless that you were sure you were being punked? Like you keep looking away from the other person to check your surroundings for places Ashton Kutcher and a camera crew could come popping out of?
You're not the only one.
u/Anti-hollowkid asked: What is the dumbest argument you've ever been in?Brace yourselves, folks. Some of these arguments are breathtakingly bonkers. The sheer number of people who are willing to argue with someone over provable facts and what that other person likes or doesn't like is just ... stunning. It's stunning, you guys. Just not in a good way.
I Know What I LikeGiphy
My wife and I once argued over whether or not I liked mustard on my hot dog. I was for me liking mustard, she was against me liking mustard.
The argument lasted way longer that you could ever imagine it would.
A Stair Step
My brother and I argued if our staircase had 13 or 14 steps, based on an argument about if the floor of the second floor counts as a stair-step or not. We still have no solution.
My dad is a stairbuilder and I spent many summers working at his warehouse, so I can clear this up. 14.
My husband and I have this thing where we only say "I love you" on Saturdays. Every other day it's "I love you, but only on Saturdays." I don't know how it started, but it's been going for 11 years now.
We're both shiftworkers, so sometimes we have to stop and think what day it actually is. We had an argument recently over whether it was Saturday or not. I said it was Saturday, he said it was Friday. It was Monday.
I remember when I was about 13 my parents had an hour-long shouting match that ended with them almost getting divorced. The issue? Whether or not the nation of Iraq has a coastline.
My mother arguing that Iraq had a coastline, while my stepdad argued that it did not. This was back in 2004, and they are still quite happily married to this day. That incident is something they look back on and laugh about, and both of them admit it was really a pretty stupid thing to argue over.
With an ex:
"I owe you $80 for the bills of ours that you pay, and you owe me $40 for the bills of ours that I paid. Here's $40 in cash; we're even."
She did not understand this.
I literally had to go get another $40 out of the ATM, and hand the $80 to her. Then I had her hand me the $40 she owed me.
"Now how much do you have in your hand?"
She still didn't understand.
She somehow has a college degree.
When we were kids my brother and I got in a physical fight because he said I like mini wheats and I insisted I didn't. His argument was that I always sang the mini wheats song and I was deeply offended that he wasn't aware that it was just stuck in my head but I hated the cereal. I actually did like the cereal I'm not sure why I was arguing with him about it but I remember how genuinely angry I was.
I'll tell you about the only legal trouble I've ever been in, the fight that got me arrested. It started over whether we should return a box of crayons or not, and to this day I don't have any idea how it escalated to the point of the cops being called, but they were and I was the one taken in.
My boyfriend insisted that when two people are in an argument and one makes a point so reasonable and logical the other one can't disagree with it - it's unfair. I tried, logically and reasonably, to explain several times why that is just winning the argument, proving your point thoroughly and is completely fair.
His answer was that I was being unfair.
How the ch in masochism is pronounced. My friend caught me saying "masoKism" while he would say "masoSYism."
To be fair, he grew up speaking French, in which the ch in masochism is pronounced in "his" way. But he insisted that I was the wrong one here and that was just infuriating.
A woman was adamant that looking at the big solar eclipse on the television was unsafe unless you were wearing glasses. She wouldn't believe us and insisted on emailing NASA to check.
A Non-Standard Ruler?
I worked for a company that made signs. We had a customer ask for signs that were 7mm wide that were to go on a door. Our sign makers figured the order meant inches because 7mm is pretty small, so made them 7 inches. I got a phone call from the customer who went mad at me for making them the wrong size. So I put a reorder through for 7 mm.
Argued with the sign makers over it but they eventually agreed to do it after I shown them the order in writing. I even had the customer put her complaint in writing, reiterating the size they wanted.
7mm signs went out and a day later I get the customer on the phone literally screaming at me.
Cue the dumb argument - we ended up having an argument over how big a millimetre is, and obviously everyone in the office were laughing, but this customer just wouldn't accept it and said we must be using a non-standard ruler to measure.
Ended up being escalating to the sales department manager who refused to issue a refund. We still don't know what they actually meant.
This Unusual Vegan Argument
Was in a pub with a few friends, and some random Dude dropped an ear, and somehow figured I'm vegan. Well, people like him are the reason I usually avoid mentioning it. He came up to me and insisted on starting a discussion about veganism. He claimed that by the end of it, I would be eating meat again.
He listed some stupid arguments, I told him I was not convinced and then tried to keep on drinking beer with my friends. He followed me, and wanted me to "try to convert him to a vegan." I stupidly listed some of my reasons thinking it would make him go away. He told me he still was not convinced, so I was like whatever. Again, I really just wanted to drink beer with my friends.
That dude followed me all night and expected me to try make him vegan. Doesn't matter what I said, and all the reasons that for me are obviously good enough to be vegan. He'd be just like "No, that doesn't convince me, therefore your argument and how you life is stupid."
Didn't matter how often I told him that I honestly don't care; 5 minutes later he would come up to me again "I'm still not vegan, so veganism is stupid, all your arguments were stupid, now give me a good reason to become vegan!" At one point, I was literally yelling at him that I don't give a single flying f about what he eats and why, that it's in no way my responsibility to "turn somebody vegan" and in no way his business what I eat.
Honestly, for that dude, I would have bought a whole ham, just to shove it up his stupid annoying face.
In college my roommate and I argued about a line in Monty Python & the Holy Grail. The scene with the Black Knight where the line "Alright, we'll call it a draw" is uttered. We argued about who said that line, whether it was King Arthur or the Black Knight.
It went on for hours longer than it should have because I was stubborn and refused to admit I was wrong.
Albert or ArnoldGiphy
Whether Albert Einstein or Arnold Schwarzenegger would be more useful to have around during a Zombie apocalypse. How on earth would Albert Einstein come in handy!?
Below Sea Level
I live on an island and when you go upland and you look out the sea looks like it's higher than or on the same level as the land. It's just a weird perspective thing because of the horizon. One day some kid says that it's because the island is under sea level.
I'm like wtf bro all of us would be with the fishes. He argues that no that's not true and if I just go upland I'll see. We then spend a good 5 minutes of my time arguing about it until I decided to leave this kid in his stupidity. He even said we shouldn't believe everything adults tell us and sometimes we need to think for ourselves.
This kid was older than me and was going to a good school. Lost my respect for him ever since then.
Someone tried to fight with me over how to spell my name.
Now, my name is in a lot of languages with slightly different spellings. I would have accepted any of those spellings, but this one was just... Not even close. It didn't make any logical sense.
An analogous example is if my name was Thomas and someone was insisting it was spelled Tomash. And not just the name Thomas in general, but that me specifically, on my birth certificate, was named Tomash. I know how to spell my own name.
I swear to god, it went on for like an hour.
Whales Are Mammals
I was in an online chat room one day, and we were talking about whales. I commented on how whales are mammals and the next thing you know, someone was arguing with me and trying to convince me that a whale was a fish.
Stupid microwaves. Having a man child talk down to me about how microwaves work only for him to google it and prove me right. He slept on the sofa that night.
My friend keeps telling me that the norm is that a person should shower once a week. This has been going on for years. I'm almost convinced he's trolling me.
No Balloons For Grandma
My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky.
He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space. Releasing balloons is terrible for the environment and kills/harms so much wildlife.
He got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.
Spontaneous Dolphin ExistenceGiphy
How dolphins reproduced. It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence. The argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures.
Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day.
I repeatedly had the argument with a friend over whether roosters were chickens. She was convinced that only the females were chickens (hens). We were 18 at the time.
Me and my friend were drinking underage, we ended up in an argument of whether lightning McQueen's eyes were blue or green. Somehow throughout the whole thing both of us never thought to straight up google a picture.
But ... Ice Floats
Woman wanted ice on the bottom of her drink.
Now read that sentence again and try to imagine arguing with that particular brand of stupid.
Time Zones Exist
Coworker claimed that it was the same time of day and the same season on the whole globe. Had to get 4 coworkers to confirm to him that time zones do in fact exist.
My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.
"Hey could you hand me that red _____?"
"no, it's red"
"YOU CANT EVEN KNOW"
It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.
I'm late, but I saw this question and instantly remembered that I was booted from a Facebook group because I called someone out on a lie that was not only bull, but extremely pointless. She was friends with the moderator and they made the case that my argument over such a little lie was more of a problem than the lie itself (though they didn't refer to it as a lie.)
The woman said that she used to babysit for Andre 3000 and that his name was Andre 2000 - but he changed it after the year 2000 had passed. This was so easily disproven it was ridiculous. Their debut album came out in 1994 and he was already going by Andre 3000 at that time.
The argument wasn't a huge long drawn out thing, but the fact that either of us were on Facebook at separate times meant that the responses were over a long period of time so this argument lasted a few days.
It was stupid.
Stars Like Our Sun
I was arguing with my grandpa about stars he didn't believe that there are other stars like our sun. Basically he thought there is only the sun, the moon and the earth.
I have a degree in history. I mostly focused on nationalism. Wrote a 50 page paper on it and Richard Nixon with around 50 100 sources. Looked at micro film for hours on end. Part of the paper focused on how Nixon being chair of the house committee of Unamerican Activities was used as a powerful weapon to use against political enemies. It also inspired Joe McCarthy. Have had people tell me I was wrong and Nixon was never elected to a position besides the president and Joe McCarthy came before Nixon. I stopped trying to talk history to people.
I also know quite a bit about the history of the Balkans its amazing how many Serbs refuse to believe Tito did anything wrong.
Wrote 100 page paper on nationalism in Israel. Its frustrating to talk about because for some reason a lot of people think Palestinian firing rockets randomly into Israel is ok but if Israel retaliates the people get up in arms over a targeted air strike that kills 3 people.
Balloon to Heaven
My cousin and I argued over a balloon going to Heaven. We were at his big sisters prom send off and he let a balloon go and it went high into the sky. He then said this balloon will go up past space and go to Heaven and reach grandma (God rest her soul). And I was like no it's not and it's probably not even gonna reach space.
And he got really mad and defensive and started telling me to google it and do my research and I'm like I don't have to google it you idiot. He was mad at me for a good week.
I got into an argument with a co-worker over how we were attaching two pages of a letter together: small binder clips or paper clips.
He felt that paper clips would leave a "dent" in the paper when removed, but binder clips won't. He refused to staple them together. I felt that binder clips would also leave a "dent", so we might as well just use the paper clips.
It ended with him saying: "Do what you want [me], I don't care!" and storming off.
Once got accused of faking being Jewish. Why? I have no clue. We argued over the course of a month, any time I'd bring it up and she heard about it, she'd begin going after me for "faking it".
My mother's side is ethnically Jewish. Grandparents were practicing.
3 friends and I once got into an argument about how to pronounce Nutella. It lasted for about 3-4 months. It was hilarious how serious we took it, it'd get heated but never for real serious.
I think someone even called the company that made it to check, or that may have been for the Cheetos company. We were really bored in high school.
Late to the party, but there it is.
I'm a manager at a small store. We're only 4 working there, so my team and I grew very close and we joke around a lot. Once during a slow shift, my employee and I had an argument because we were looking at the lingerie boxes, and I thought that two specific boxes had the same woman on it, but she was 100% positive they weren't the same person.
Looking back, I don't know why it was such a big deal to us at the time, but we even called another employee who lives across the street to come and tell us what the heck was up with that. Turns out I was right, and she was pretty salty about it. It was a great night.
Wicked Witch of the West
I almost got into an argument with an old girlfriend over Glinda the good witch from Oz. She insisted that Glinda was manipulating Dorothy to assassinate the Wicked Witch of the West and convince the Wizard to leave to create a political void she could fill.
I conceded the issue when I heard the whole premise because I thought it was too damn stupid to get worked up over.
Keep Your Hands to Yourself
Just the other day I legit got in an argument with my co-workers on why I don't like my butt being grabbed by anyone (I'm a guy). Seriously.
They went on about "I don't mind it. Mike and I do it all the time and we don't care." Yeah, that's nice dude, but I'm not you, and there's something called "Keep your hands to yourself" (which was taught to a good portion of us growing up). Just like how Karen wouldn't like it if I touched her boobs or her grabbing your crotch or frankly ANY area you wouldn't like being grabbed, keep away. In general, you should not be touching me in any areas after I've told you not to several times before.
So unless you're sleeping me or dating me, keep your damn hands off my toosh.
My best friend and I argued over whether or not telekinesis was possible. Her argument was that humans don't yet know what the human brain at 100% usage was capable of, and that telekinesis was inside the possibilities.
I said the brain does use 100%, just at different times.
We didn't speak to each other for four days.
How dolphins reproduced and whether or not ghost existed (back to back with the same person). It took me a few solid minutes of explaining to her that dolphins have reproductive organs and that they did not just pop into existence (the argument began with her saying she wanted to work with sea creatures).
How it shifted to the existence of ghosts is a solid and reasonable question to ask (I don't remember why). I had to then proceed to tell her that ghost hunting TV shows do not constitute as undeniable evidence.
Personally, I hope she was messing with me cause I lost a little faith in humanity that day. This was in high school SO... hopefully she was kidding.
Dogs and ChocolateGiphy
I told this stupid woman that chocolate is toxic to dogs. She went on to tell me how a little bit will just make them hyper and then they will calm down. I told her to google it. Her and her bf shut right up. Now they have a kid. Good luck, Jeremy and Andrea. morons.
I should also add that this argument started because Jeremy was giving his tiny dog chocolate and I told him it was toxic.
Is water wet?
My roommate and I have a recurring argument over whether or not water is wet l, and whether or not a person is considered wet underwater.
For the record, it is no to both questions.
A kid a church telling me about the mission trip I went on. Not only was I not on that trip, but I had never been on any mission trip. We were good friends, so it's not like he would've mistaken someone else for me.
He insisted I was there as if an entire week long trip would just fall out of my memory. He even had stories of things we'd done together. I'm not sure if he thought I was lying, joking, stupid, or crazy, but I was pretty sure he was some combination thereof.
One time I got into a shouting match with my mom and little brother in the car. The issue? The names of the two-headed dragon from the PBS kids afternoon show Dragon Tales. I swore it was Zack and Macie.
It was actually Zak and Wheezie. I don't even remember why we were yelling about it.
Green Or Yellow?
When I was about 15 or so my mother and I spent about 20-30 minutes arguing about the color of a shirt. We agreed it was blue/green, but to me it was just a shade more blue, while to her it was just a bit more green.
Turns out, your eyeballs yellow as you age and hers were 24 years yellower than mine, so I think that skewed her color vision.
Stars In Their MultitudeGiphy
I once got in an argument over whether or not a line from the song "Stars" in Les Mis says "...but mine is the way of the lord" or "mine is the way of the law".
I didn't even really care what he thought but he was so adamant and cocky that it got me heated. By the end of it we were shouting at each other and I had to apologize, which I think is what he wanted the whole time.
My brother is colorblind. And he CONSTANTLY tries to correct me on what color things are.
"Hey could you hand me that red _____?" "that's orange" "no, it's red" "orange" "YOU CANT EVEN KNOW".
It is the base of our most common and heated arguments.
About five years ago, my girlfriend (now wife) once had a very intense argument about whether or not hot water cleaned things better than cold water.
She genuinely believed that water temperature didn't matter. This is someone who has not one, but two masters degrees.
We argued for something like 2 hours, and we seriously almost broke up over the whole thing.
I had an argument with a girl IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIOLOGY CLASS in high school about how humans are not mammals. She thought a human was a human and we are not mammals because "mammals are animals and humans are not animals"
I tried explaining to her the difference between reptiles and mammals and how humans fall under the mammal category to try and educate her... but she just wouldn't listen.
I still have no idea why the BIOLOGY teacher did not get involved...
Solid Or Liquid?
Some classmates and I got into a heated debate as to whether or not the human body could count as a soup, salad, or sandwich. The teacher got mad at us, but hey! All we were doing was watching a movie.
For the record, my logic lays with soup- Liquid contained within a solid, at a hot temperature.